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How do you find an attorney for retainer?

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    thanks for all the responses. Gives me lots to check into.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 74 View Post
    I'm not sure I agree with this.

    You want someone who is experienced and has been practicing in the region for awhile. Someone who is familiar with how things work in the area, knows people and has contacts in the courts and in law enforcement. In short, someone who conveys that they are competent and confident.

    This is not an area to cheap out. You want the best person you can afford, to represent you. This could be your freedom at stake.

    Also- issues are NEVER cut and dried, especially if there's a shooting involved.
    1st of all, good thread OP! Thanks for posting this inquiry; I've learned something as well. I'm going to check out the reverse miranda link later. I think I know what its referring to but not sure.

    I also think that there may be something to getting a lawyer that practices in the area that the offense occurs in, etc. I know its a different matter entirely but I truly feel that if my brother had retained a local lawyer when he was fighting for custody then things could have had a dramatic turn. He, instead, took a lawyer from a bigger city...thinking the lawyer from the bigger city would be a better lawyer. Unfortunately, he was wrong and got a crack pot lawyer. They system in the county he was going to court in seemed to either make up their own rules or were really good at stretching some legitimate laws. I could be wrong but I can't help but to think that if he had a lawyer that was a part of the good ole boy network, he could have done better and achieved a dramatically different result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DefConGun View Post
    I also think that there may be something to getting a lawyer that practices in the area that the offense occurs in, etc. I know its a different matter entirely but I truly feel that if my brother had retained a local lawyer when he was fighting for custody then things could have had a dramatic turn. He, instead, took a lawyer from a bigger city...thinking the lawyer from the bigger city would be a better lawyer. Unfortunately, he was wrong and got a crack pot lawyer. They system in the county he was going to court in seemed to either make up their own rules or were really good at stretching some legitimate laws. I could be wrong but I can't help but to think that if he had a lawyer that was a part of the good ole boy network, he could have done better and achieved a dramatically different result.
    Very good point - I live in small rural county with big city an hour away. Definitely will check on the local-yokel-good-ol-boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cattus Vir View Post
    Check with your employer you may have something like prepaid legal aid available; just another idea.
    Just don't tell your employer why you want to get a defense lawyer......
    Knee jerk reaction?

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    Several years ago I became a member of Pre-Paid Legal, an association of law offices, nation wide, with specialists in virtually every aspect of law. If needed, call an 800 number 24/7, and get connected with a self defense specialist in your area. There are other similar groups, so you may wish to shop around. I would not recommend relying on your second cousin's divorce lawyer for help in a self defense situation.
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    Cut and dry issues with guns...yeah...
    Every firearm related case I've ever dealt with but one involved either sex, parking spaces, money, custody, employment or alcohol.

    The one simple case was a surrender of a few weapons which were on the CT AWB list which were owned since the 80's but never registered so they had to be turned in. (It hurt. I wanted the H&K 91, but thems the breaks.)

    Your "simple" gun case...isn't.

    Cut & dry incident related to firearms...that's like dating a stripper who works at an outlaw motorcycle club, then expecting she doesn't have issues, bagage and an ex named "Skull".

    Does not happen. But, keep living in your dream world.

    Shooting incidents are a criminal law matter, and expertise related to firearms is rarely required. Use of force expertise, investigation and police procedure, yes...but it rarely requires the ability to explain the minutia of 147 grain Ranger Talon vs. 124 Grain Gold Dot, or why a Glock with a NY-1/3.5# trigger set up is just as safe as a stock 5.5# coil spring/5.5# connector.

    I'll come to the point...

    Simple is relative.

    To me, simple is handling the domestic violence arrest based on your ex's say so, your weapons being confiscated, your permit suspended, and DCF sniffing about because your wife made a complaint.

    That's a "gun case" for most people. It happens more often than a shooting, and it involves a gun, but requires a lot of skill other than being able to explain the difference between standard cut rifling and a polygon cut barrel.

    Being able to handle the DV & DCF case, as well as the arcane rituals of the pistol permit appeals (sprinkle the blood on the alter in the proper manner, please...) and confiscated property regulations is required.

    If you want a simple gun case, never have sex (I mean really, don't buy or rent, because neither is less expensive), never drink, don't have kids, don't talk to people on the street, don't drive and keep the hell away from your family. Oh and don't ever buy, sell or rent anything, and have no income.
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    How often do you think you'll be involved in a shooting incident with your firearm? The answer for almost all of us will be: never.

    I travel with my firearm. if I ever have to defend myself out-of-state, I'll end up needing the best attorney money can buy in that state. If I was Tony Soprano or Whitey Bulger, I'd have one on retainer. As a simple Joe Sixpack, I'll simply have to cough up whatever I have when I need to. Since I plan on using the same skills I developed for avoiding violent assaults before I carried a gun, I'm betting the odds are really in my favor.

    My ccw is there for a minuscule, last-resort self defense situation for me and/or my family. The likelihood of that happening is, as I said, minuscule. As the esteemed counselor above states, almost all his cases involve alleged domestic violence, family issues, and alcohol. Your time and money are better spent dealing with far more likely threats to your life.

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    The best criminal defense attorney in any town is pretty well known because he wins cases when everyone has already decided through the press that his client is guilty. An example would be the legal team for Casey Anthony. Those are the kind of people you want going to bat for you when it's time to get serious.

    For everything else, I use Pre-paid Legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockBottom View Post
    An example would be the legal team for Casey Anthony. Those are the kind of people you want going to bat for you when it's time to get serious.
    They are the people you'd need to sell organs to afford to hire.

    Start a defense fund now if you ever think you'd need them.

    And the best investment...

    Ayoob or Farnam's classes on SD & the law, and distance from drama & disorder.

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    I use prepaid legal. You get free phone consultations and a 25% discount if anything has to be done in person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellCT View Post
    They are the people you'd need to sell organs to afford to hire.

    Start a defense fund now if you ever think you'd need them.

    And the best investment...

    Ayoob or Farnam's classes on SD & the law, and distance from drama & disorder.
    Spoken by a man who knows...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainAir View Post
    I did not want to highjack the thread on CT & CC, but found this mentioned (sorry, don't remember writer and didn't know how to get all the info):

    "re: lawyer and having his name in your wallet....very important as is having a 30 minute conversation with him
    preferably before you start going armed. some charge for that meeting. some i know do not. hopefully you will never actually need him in court.
    but you may have need of his services for transferables during the settlement of an estate. better to know one and not need him than....
    i think it comes down to who is closer to you and that you feel most comfortable with."

    So how does someone go about finding a self defense atty to meet with and possibly have on retainer, and not just the run-of-the-mill defense atty paid for getting dui's and ordinary scum-bags off criminal charges?
    looked familiar.....i said em

    your question has many angles

    if you belong to a club they will have legal representation; even if they do not work with individuals, they can refer you to one of their coligues.

    if not a club member than the yellow pages area a start.
    though id be wanting to co-ordinate names there with those spoken well of by friends and family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockBottom View Post
    Spoken by a man who knows...
    Spoken by a man who does the time sheets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosler Guy View Post
    I use prepaid legal. You get free phone consultations and a 25% discount if anything has to be done in person.
    If your freedom is at stake, getting the HMO version of a legal defense "team" may not be the best option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBob View Post
    For legal help if the SHTF, I joined Armed Citizens' Legal Defense Network which maintains a growing list of recommended member attorneys around the country for their members. The also have training DVDs to recommend how to handle the post-shooting phase of self-defense. IMO, Reverse Miranda isn't necessarily the best approach for non-criminals. Mas Ayoob offers some pretty good advice on the ACLDN DVDs.
    Weren't thy giving away CCW badges with membership at some point?

    In all seriousness, are they really as good as they claim to be?

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