Real purpose of tiny little signs?

Real purpose of tiny little signs?

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    I donate plasma twice a week and today I noticed something new. Sitting in a little sign holder was a 8.5 x 11 piece of paper that essentially said "for the safety and security of our staff and patrons no photography of staff or equipment is allowed nor are any guns, regardless of license held by the carrier allowed. Any violator will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of all city, state, and federal laws."

    This type is sign so small you have to be right up on it to read.

    So what do you more experience people think of a sign like this? Does it really make people feel safer to see a sign like this?


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    Don't you have to know a sign is there to obey it? "What sign officer???"
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    My local shopping mall does the same thing. They have a set of rules posted on a few of the main entrances. All the way at the bottom is "firearms prohibited." You would need to sit there and read the rules and policies to realize that they ban carry. If I have to go up there, I just go in the JC Penney entrance and carry concealed. "I didn't realize there was any sign... I came in through Penneys."

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    In Texas that would not mean a thing, so tiny signs don't bother me one bit.

    Does OK say anything about the sign being conspicuous or whatever.

    They might just put the signs up so if something was to happen they can say " well we had signs to prohibit it". CYA.
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    Sometimes, I think they do it just to give you an "out", so I don't make a big deal. Somebody, somewhere in corporate land says the property has to be posted so they've complied with corporate. They put up a sign. Of course, it's so small that most people don't notice it. If you are carrying concealed and somebody does actually spot it and complains to management, when management approaches you about it, you utilize the "out" that they graciously provided you with.

    "Sorry, I didn't see your sign."

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    Bring in a camera, ask an attendant there to hold a light for you as you take a picture of the sign, and see what happens.

    If no one says anything, then it's a CYA sign that no one is serious about. If they throw you out, then I guess they meant it.

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    Fortunately signs in OK carry no legal weight, if you're detected they can ask you to leave and if you refuse they can charge you with trespassing and that's it. But the first rule of cc is don't be detected so I really don't worry about that. I ride a motorcycle almost everyday to work and I have a magnetic tank bag that has a gun holster in the bottom compartment. Most people just assume I keep my insurance cards and stuff in there. When I'm not on the bike I just carry it in the small of my back.

    When I see these kinds of signs I always sit back and wonder, do signs like that really make non-gun people feel safer?

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    The whole thing about "gun buster" signs is that they are designed to give the illusion of safety. If a sign is posted, most of the uninformed will tend to believe the place is way safer than other places that "allow" firearms. They truly believe that everyone will obey the sign.

    Best thing to do is go with the law. If signs carry no weight, then ignore it, but stay concealed. If they do, then do not patronize the place and find another that will allow concealed carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoGunn View Post
    The whole thing about "gun buster" signs is that they are designed to give the illusion of safety. If a sign is posted, most of the uninformed will tend to believe the place is way safer than other places that "allow" firearms. They truly believe that everyone will obey the sign.

    Best thing to do is go with the law. If signs carry no weight, then ignore it, but stay concealed. If they do, then do not patronize the place and find another that will allow concealed carry.
    Unless a sign brings it to their attention, I doubt that most people ever consider the possibility that another citizen may be carrying.
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    In southeastern wisconsin, miwaukee area, signs are a waste of paper. gangbangers and punks all carry something, small gun, big gun, or knives. honest citizens follow the law, we can't legally carry, but who do you think the law goes after first? can't wait till november.

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    Yeah, OUFan, I'd just keep on keepin on. Where do you donate though? I haven't been able to in a while...

    On a side note, I went to Woodland Hills for the first time last night. I came in from the south through the main entrance on that side. No signs anywhere to be seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paaiyan View Post
    Yeah, OUFan, I'd just keep on keepin on. Where do you donate though? I haven't been able to in a while...

    On a side note, I went to Woodland Hills for the first time last night. I came in from the south through the main entrance on that side. No signs anywhere to be seen.
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    In the 3 years I lived in SW OK and carried, I don't ever remember seeing a sign. Of course I never look real hard for one either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattwestm View Post
    My local shopping mall does the same thing. They have a set of rules posted on a few of the main entrances. All the way at the bottom is "firearms prohibited." You would need to sit there and read the rules and policies to realize that they ban carry. If I have to go up there, I just go in the JC Penney entrance and carry concealed. "I didn't realize there was any sign... I came in through Penneys."
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    I doubt a notice that small would be enforceble in any court.

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