This is a discussion on I went to the bank this morning within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by canav844 No hurricanes in Indiana, and no CC only by law and no force of law with the signs, I can OC ...
I've never seen any sort of security persons, armed or otherwise, in the banks around me.
I remember way back when that BiLos grocery had an elderly guard sitting high in the lifeguard seat, a shotgun across his lap, ovelooking the cash registers. He was usually alseep. I can only imagine what would have happened if he unloosed that scattergun!
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Signs mean nothing! If they didn't have a sign, but asked you to leave...then leave...no harm, no foul...same thing.
I have never gone to a bank, unarmed!
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The guys in my bank usually wave me into their office to see if I'm carrying something new. I've OC'd in my bank plenty of times and no one even flinches. I love Virginia!!!
The cute little sign and sleeping beauty guard are nothing more than an effort to make the people who don't know any better feel a little better. In reality, they're detrimental to the real issue of security.
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An unarmed security guard is the famous protector of the weak in la-la land.
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I CC in banks here in Ca. but no OC. Get this, OC is legal here in Ca. but only if it's unloaded. So the old OC vs. CC is easy here. There's no point in OC for SD unless you just want to have a club handy. Lots of CC'ers around here though in the north part of the state. As far as signs though, I've only seen one at a Toys 'R' Us. I think the point of no one ever seeing weapons because there's no loaded OC allowed, kind of keeps the thoughts of having to post a sign at bay. Sort of an "out of sight, out of mind" thing if you will. If they only knew. Even in class, our instructors always hit on the fact that a bank is only federally insured and NOT a federal building. And why? Because someone always asks.
Note: Please don't carry this on to a OC vs. CC thing. I was just making a point as to why I think there aren't many signs here.
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[QUOTE=sigmanluke;1997464]I honestly don't remember the last time I was in a bank unarmed.
I honestly don't remember the last time I was in a bank, period. With direct deposit, ATM's and bill-paying online I rarely set foot in a bank building.
I know not everyone does this, but the convenience and not having to pay ridiculous fees for someone to handle my money to me, makes sense.
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An unarmed guard is somewhat like the Walmart greeter there to answer your question...."where would I find the peanut butter"?
However, having said that, let me share a real eye opener. Back many, many years ago when I was still finishing up my college education I worked for a security guard outfit. We did the usual "rent-a-cop" things. Many of our assignments were armed positions. So one day several of us reported to a local outdoor shooting range for training including live fire. OMG, is all I can say. When we finished, the instructor asked what we each had learned. When it was my turn to respond, I said, "One thing I learned today, is that if I'm working with any of you and I see you draw your handgun, I'm immediately going to seek cover". You know, I didn't work there just too long. :)
They are insured for their money if they get robbed, and that's their only concern. It's certainly not your safety.
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Anyway, it was a gigantic pain in the rear to get in and out of there. My wife and I had to clear the airlock one by one. I now avoid that branch like the plague.
Very convenient for any criminals watching bank customers walk out knowing that they
a) probably have money on them
b) are 100% unarmed.
I"m in south Florida. And I'm a part time security guard. I spend my time trying to stay awake like the guy you menioned...lol. NEVER sit in a comfortabe chair..lol. Anyhoo... Most of the time an unarmed security guard is probably some demand by an insurance provider, or to get a discount on insurance. It seem's the insurance actuaries have figured out that a uniformed security guard prevents something... I have no idea what though. Perhaps fraudulent slip an fall complaints.
IMO Banks mostly no longer employ armed security because of the liability factor. It seems they feel the public is as much at risk from their own security, as they are from the robber. They would loose much more money in a wrongfull death, or injury lawsuit than they would if they gave the robber what he wanted. And the bank cash is federally insured. The customer suit would be charged against the banks liability insurance. There is no deterance to robbing a bank...
I know of two banks that have armed security. But for some reason they are posted outside. I dont get that either. I also CCW when going to the bank, or anywhere else. With more and more banks now keeping odd hours it would be nuts to not CCW IMO.
Hmmmm, I suppose it depends upon the bank and the state in which you live.
Here in Washington, there's no prohibition against packing in a bank.