Have You Ever Had To Draw Your Firearm In Self Defense? - Have You Had To Fire It?

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    Just once many years ago on an attempted middle of night break in, but luckily after I yelled, they decided it wasnt in thier best interest. Thankfully never while CC'ing, and hope it stays that way.

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    Drew twice, once returning home and once in my car at a red light. Both times they were apologetic, one of them cried.

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    When I was an undergrad (many years ago) I managed a small outdoor gear shop in ABQ NM near the University. I closed the place all the time and usually had about 1k in cash to lock up or take to the bank so I carried a small Ruger SP101 when I was going to and from the store. When I was in my truck I'd put the pistol in a pocket that was on the right hand side of the drivers seat. I was driving home one evening on a residential street and honestly was zoned out after a long day when an Impala low-rider stopped quickly in front of me. I managed to keep from rear-ending the guy but it was close. Three hispanic men jumped out of the car, two had bats, one looked unarmed. I put my small truck in reverse and looked backward over my right shoulder but there was a second car pulled up right behind me, an old Ford truck lowrider, and two guys were getting out of that vehicle. I looked left and saw a guy punching towards my driver side window. Much to my surprise the window shattered and his fist (with brass knuckles on it) hit me in the side of my face shattering my glass lense sunglasses. I heard one of the guys yell "pull him out!" Lucky for me my right hand had dropped onto the grip of my SP101 in the pocket of the drivers seat. I raised the gun across the front of my body with my right hand and fired point blank range at the guy who was at the drivers door and amazingly missed him. It was, however, enough of a show of force to scatter the dirtbags with cries of "he's got a gun!". They took off and I called the cops who were nice enough to take me to the ER to get the glass out my eye and stiches. A week later a group of hispanic gang members beat a college student to death in the same neighborhood as part of an initiation rite. Lessons I will never forget from this experience:
    1. Situational awareness matters! If I had been paying attention I probably could have avoided this or been in a better situation to respond.
    2. You never know when random violence will visit you, carrying a gun can save your life.
    3. I happens really fast and you can miss from 24 inches away.
    4. Never wear glass sunglasses!

    Edit: After reading other posts I thought I'd add a few more pieces of info:
    - Never found out where the bullet went, I fired at an upward angle from around my sternum so I probably shot above the guys head.
    - The ABQ cops were great about the whole thing. It helped that I knew two of them who frequented our store. I didn't have a CHL but it was legal to carry a gun in the car so they didn't give me a hard time or take the gun.
    Last edited by GearmanTX; August 6th, 2012 at 12:26 AM. Reason: Question from another post...
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    Not carrying concealed at time, but home invasion last fall. Fired my daily carry and hit target.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Outer_Heaven View Post
    I have had to draw down on the job.
    I have had to draw and fire in self defense once. I did not kill anyone, I got charged with Shooting in Public and reckless handling of a firearm and was found guilty of shooting in public thanks to VA's duty to retreat laws. (I really would have loved to have asked the judge how he would have retreated from 4 men pummeling his face, body, and crotch while one has him iin a choke hold, the four men have yet to be picked up on their warrants) I still get angry thinking of this.
    Outer_Heaven - Wow, that's terrible!

    I'm working on getting my CCW currently. However, back in the early 90s I had someone break into my apartment while I was at home. I met them face-to-face in the kitchen with my 9mm in hand. Once he saw the pistol he ran for his life!

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    Ever see him again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cokeman View Post
    Ever see him again?
    I don't know that I ever saw him again since it was dark and I didn't see his face clearly. He was in his teens or early 20s and he was scared for his life when he saw my pistol. He ran out the door that he came through. If he'd came any closer I'd have shot him but I'm glad that it didn't come to that. It bothered me for many days after the incident about what might've drove him to resort to robbery since I kept replaying the event in my head over and over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladius View Post
    Hmmm, With 22.5 years in the Marine Corps, 3 wars, a weapons instructor certification and fifteen years as a deputy sheriff as well as a few other qualifications, I guess I have a lot to still learn.
    Yes, we all have a lot to learn. Even if someone said they had 75 years experience in everything gun related. Even if they said their name was Jeff Cooper (or insert other well known name) If we think we know it all, then we are proud. And pride kills. (reminds me of why a Doctor calls his business a "practice") Even with all that knowledge, there is more time for practice and more time to learn until we die!

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    Snake self-defense: I was having a nice little hike in this semi-remote area last Friday afternoon. One of those parks that are really just desert paths with a couple of signs up. About 10 miles west of Tucson. No one around at all. Pretty varied dense terrain. Hills and scrub brush and cactus. So I'm back on the regular trail at a good solid pace, and I hear this weird sound, close and low! Five feet away here's this rattlesnake coiled up. Kept moving in the same direction past him, turned, drew, fired my big CZ-75 pistol. Blam! Looked like a good chunk of his head was missing and a large splat of blood where he was too! Thought the best thing would be to leave him there so the next person is left kind of wary. A five foot dead snake on the trail is going to be hard to miss. Bugger the snake shot!

    Also I do CC with the CZ-75. It's not just for the trail hikes.

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    Ive worked the last two decades in a large county jail, and BGs are way more afraid of being shot by a citizen than they are of a LE. For a cop to shoot them they have to be caught in the act, and that almost never happens. But being shot by a person they were trying to rob, that's a constant possibility. They avoid people that are aware of there surroundings. and seek out those that are distracted. When their eyes meet yours they are deciding if you would shoot them or not.

    Ive never had to draw on a person, but have had to defend myself twice from packs of dogs. Once with a shovel and once with a 22 pistol. Its amassing that when the shovel cut into the pack of dogs the first time they all realized that they had turned from predators to prey! I think that instinct runs in most BGs also.

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    And who pray tell are the most stupidly distracted people in the world?

    MOBILE PHONE ADDICTS!

    Makes the robber's job a lot easier! "Humm where is the obsessed cow looking like she's about to walk into a fountain?"

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    At the time I write this, it's "100, draw without shooting" and "41 draw and shoot". I was going to try to ball park how often Americans drew without shooting in a defense against humans situation from that, but the number of times people shoot snakes, dogs, etc really skews the percentages. Snakes and dogs don't take off running just because you pulled a gun.

    Anyhow, it really looks like that 2.5 million defensive gun uses without shooting is grossly overstated. More like 1% of that, unless we include cases of people drawing because they heard a noise and it turned out to be nothing.

    (I've drawn for defense against humans twice. The first involved a group of young men closing in on my GF and me while we were parked in a nice neighborhood away from her mother's house and talking. 12 of them, I drew a tiny, .22lr revolver, one of them yelled "he has a gun" and they hauled. Bad guys don't ask what the caliber is or how many shots you can make, they just see "GUN". The other time I won't go into because I was stupid.)

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    When I was living in Nashville, a guy waved me down so I stopped to help. It wasn't in a nice part of town I might add. Once I rolled down the window, I could tell he was on something (drugs) and said he was being chased and was lost and said had the police on the phone. He handed me the phone to talk to the police. There was no one around and he then proceeded to open my door and get in, and I said "If you open that door, I will shoot your a$$." I had my gun drawn so he backed off and the dispatch even said to me "you do what you need to do to protect yourself or your family." I waited for the police to arrive, but I was not about to let a stranger hop in my truck without permission. That's the only time I have ever been in a situation where I had to use a weapon to diffuse a situation.

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    As a law dawg, yes/yes. As a civie, yes/no
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    I hold the line.
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    Ditto Jaxon with minor exception, law dawg yes/no. As a civie, no/no thank god!

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