Have You Ever Had To Draw Your Firearm In Self Defense? - Have You Had To Fire It?

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    I don't know if this is considered "drawing" or not. While returning early in the morning from my mother's house, I was stopped at a red light in a very questionable part of town. A car full of youths pulled up next to me and started to "cat call" and started to get out of their car. I took my weapon and held it up to the light and checked to make sure I had one chambered. I didn't aim it at them or try to intimidate them with it...just checking. They DID see it and jumped back in their car and ran the red light to get out of there. Had they not taken the "hint' I would have ran the light myself rather than do a shoot out, but better them than me.

    Now I have killed snakes. One with a gun (copper head) and one with a bow (cotton mouth). Didn't shed a tear over either. I did shoot a dog dead once. It was at my brother's and he and hubby were gone. One of his dogs got hit by a car and was laying there screaming in great pain. I knew it would be fatal injuries and couldn't stand to see the dog suffer. His girlfriend couldn't do it...so I did. Hated to have to do it, but don't regret doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    Whoa.................."Shooting someone in the back" where do you come off with that stuff....? Geeezzzz.
    Said I was told....if you read it correctly.......doesn't necessarilly mean 'Do as I say, not as I do".
    I'm saying that if you feel the need to shoot when you draw, what do you do if the BG turns to flee. That is why I am not a fan of the "if you draw it you use it" mentality. I may be wrong, but that seemed to be what you were promoting.

    Here is an example of what I am talking about

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEHf2c-8sRc
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    What's your point..............?
    Watched that video of yours...............IMO.............guy's a blithering idiot......he could have driven away in that Beemer in a flash instead of waiting for the DA to bring out a bat......again, what's your point....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    What's your point..............?
    Watched that video of yours...............IMO.............guy's a blithering idiot......he could have driven away in that Beemer in a flash instead of waiting for the DA to bring out a bat......again, what's your point....?
    My point is that in his case, AS SOON AS HE DREW the BG turned around and ran away. Someone in the "if you draw it, you use it" camp would have shot him in the back, because since they drew it, they had to use it. That would put that person in legal "hot water."

    My whole point is that drawing your gun does not mean you HAVE to use it. Jon Hodoway, instructor with Massad Ayoob Group (leading experts in the legal aspects of using a gun in self defense), has stated that it is sometimes not the best decision, and in fact, sometimes it is the wrong decision to fire after you draw (e.g., in situations where the BG stops endangering your life).

    I was just trying to offer some friendly advise. If you don't want to use it, that's fine. It wasn't meant to be offensive. Just trying to watch for fellow carriers.
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    Just rediculous..............sorry.
    The guy could have driven off way before he felt the need to pull one of 3 guns he was in possession of........Dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    What's your point..............?
    Watched that video of yours...............IMO.............guy's a blithering idiot......he could have driven away in that Beemer in a flash instead of waiting for the DA to bring out a bat......again, what's your point....?
    As stated in the video, that gentleman stated that he wasn't thinking straight, and everything had happened very fast which in a situation like that is expected. If you're going from holstered, to shooting, without giving someone a chance to rethink their decision of coming at you, you're foolish.

    Now if it's a situation where someone has a visible weapon and they're too close for that reaction to even happen, then you do what you have to do to go home.
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    I have heard, if you pull it you had better be able or willing to use it.
    For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. (Sun Tzu) The Art of War

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb327 View Post
    I have heard, if you pull it you had better be able or willing to use it.
    Being willing to and saying that you MUST are two different things. I adhere to the first, but TOTALLY disagree with the second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    Just rediculous..............sorry.
    The guy could have driven off way before he felt the need to pull one of 3 guns he was in possession of........Dumb.
    I agree that the guy in the video should have driven off, but my point was about the BG turning around once he saw the gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badey View Post
    Being willing to and saying that you MUST are two different things. I adhere to the first, but TOTALLY disagree with the second.
    I agree!
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    In what thread here did you see the word "Must"............or are you just makin' this _ _ _ _ up as you go along...?

    Useless and time consuming..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    So......I was told if you have to clear leather you better come up shootin'.......all these "Draw and no shots fired" senarios......now in retrospect, how many really drew their weapon prematurely....?
    Seems like a lot.........
    This is a quote from you on page 6.
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    Dumb.................I'm out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    Dumb.................I'm out.
    Again, no offense intended. Just offering my $.02; trying to be helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badey View Post
    Being willing to and saying that you MUST are two different things. I adhere to the first, but TOTALLY disagree with the second.
    Badey, until you have seen the elephant, I would not make absolutes.....

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