This is a discussion on How to get over apprehension of having one in the pipe? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; There is a reason that I don't carry with a round in the chamber. It is not because I am scared to have one in. ...
There is a reason that I don't carry with a round in the chamber. It is not because I am scared to have one in. I know my safety fundamentals, and I don't intend to ignore them.
With my job, I must, constantly, enter public buildings. Since I am in GA, there is no way I can carry inside. I must lock my firearm (currently in the glove box, but I am looking at safes) in the car before I go inside. This requires me to unholster, lock it up, take it out, and reholster it. This is extremely aggravating, but it must be done. Sometimes, I must do this multiple times in a single day. I am trying to minimize my chances of an AD by choosing to not chamber a round. A part of me really wants to carry with one in the chamber, but I am still apprehensive about it.
Because of this issue, I got to thinking about my girlfriend, as well. She is a teacher, and for months we have been talking about getting her a gun and permit. She drives 30 minutes away, through bad areas, in the country, with little or no cell phone reception. On school property, the gun must be in a locked compartment in her car, and she will require a CCP to do so. This means she would have to transfer the gun from her purse (she won't carry on her person) into a safe, or her glove box, on a daily basis. For her, we are looking at revolvers.
I could use some serious advice on these situations. What is the best coarse of action? Chamber a round, while knowingly, I will handle my gun on a daily basis? What about my GF? For some reason, revolvers seem less "scary" in this situation than an auto. Maybe it is because of the heavy trigger, but I feel that is just a mental thing.
So... What would you do?
So just out of curiosity, what is the general consensus of having one in the chamber with the safety engaged. I am going to be carrying a PX4 Storm, and I am trying to decide how exactly I should carry it. One in the chamber is a most definite, but I am still caught up on whether or not I should leave the safety on or off.
Welcome to the forum Hokieforlife.
My son and money went to VT Class of 88.
When I carried 3rd Generation S&W autoloaders I chambered a round, decocked then put the safety in the fire posistion like JD was referring to.
Long double action pull on the first shot then single action from then on. No need to disengage safety to fire.
If you decide to go that route just make sure that you are decocking after you complete firing so that you are not reholstering with the weapon in the single action mode.
I carry Glocks now so my decision is made for me.
I prefer the same trigger pull for every shot and no external safety to worry about.
"Violence is seldom the answer, but when it is the answer it is the only answer".
"A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves".
Thanks for the input JD and Old School! I will probably be carrying with one in the chamber with the safety disengaged as I feel I would be more prepared this way.
Class of 88 you say?! I actually graduated from VT in 2010 and I am currently at VCOM (the medical school right next to Tech). I love the Blacksburg area, GO HOKIES!!
If I were you, what I would do is mount a small safe in your vehicle. Find a holster that can be taken off and put on with the gun still in it. That way you can remove it, put it in the safe, and then put it back on all without actually handling the gun itself.
I have a Stack-On PDS-500 drawer safe bolted to the floor under the rear seat of my truck, works great for this type of thing.
I haven't read the entire thread, but being a new Permit to Carry holder with a similar background I felt the same was as the OP. I carry a M&P 45c with no safety IWB. I have carried for almost two months with a loaded mag and empty chamber until I had a comfort level with the firearm and with carrying in public. Just recently I started carrying the firearm with a round in the chamber and it has not made me nervous. You have to remember that your firearm is inert until you choose to use it.
Having the appropriate gear has helped as well. I use a CompTac M-TAC holster, and I have a NanoVault mounted in my vehicle.
My advice is, build up your comfort level however you see fit. What worked for me, may not work for you.
Hello from Duluth by the way ;)
i'll admit I'm still going thru my nervous phase with one in the pipe on my M&P. I was a revolver guy, and the trigger just feels SO light on the semi-autos to me. I have an LCP that is always chambered, b/c to me the trigger pull feels so much heaver. I just feel like the trigger on the S&W is so easy to pull...
I'm starting to come around, but it kinda freaks me out especially since there are no other external safety's besides my finger haha
Most people don't realize that a good holster is more than a way to carry your firearm. (A "good" holster "IS" a safety device.) The same thing can also be said about a good "gun" belt.
'Clinging to my guns and religion
^ I'll "third" that, too.
When I know that I will have to arm/disarm due to "no-guns" areas, I wear holsters that I can take off and put-on easily and safely, while I'm in the vehicle (our laws here in Ohio allows for this), without my having to remove the gun from the holster.
The less gun-handling, the better.
I couldn't agree more with RKM. I carry a Glock 19. I don't want anything being in the way of me being on top of situation that may save my life, including an external safety, let alone having to take the time to chamber a round. A friend LEO told me once when I questioned him about how he felt from a safety standpoint with a round in the chamber and no external safety raised his index finger and said " this is the only safety I need or want" that might make the difference weather I go home tonight or not.
I'm probably not posting this in the right place but can you tell me if the SIG 250 has a drop safety. Thank's Bob.