Another Bad Example
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August 29th, 2011 10:48 PM
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Another Bad Example
There are so many law abiding CC'ers, I hate to see an article like this where so many are trying to change the stance of the state.
Virginia man charged with handgun violations - The Frederick News-Post Online
So many times an example like this outweighs the hard work of others. Although I may not agree with the law at times, working to change it is the best way to approach it until all of our constitutional rights are honored in all states as they should be. Kudos to all that do it right.
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August 29th, 2011 11:17 PM
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Unfortunatly, it only takes one bad example for others to classify a group of people...it throws a wrench into the advancements (in gun laws, cc reputation ect..) that most of us have worked very hard to get ove the years...
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August 29th, 2011 11:24 PM
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Exactly my point. I have a lot of friends in MD working and hoping the "may issue" is changed to "shall issue". As I grew up in MD, I'm very glad that I now live in a state where shall issue is the norm and Castle Doctrine is now in place. This is often how main stream media gives law abiding gun owners, and those OC/CC'ers a bad wrap, utilizing the evil gun crimes and never noting the positive impacts such as lower crime rates, etc.
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August 30th, 2011 12:01 AM
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Openly carrying in front of a police officer when in a state that doesn't reciprocate....FAIL. At least he wasn't doing something super boneheaded like drinking or shooting himself in the leg. Either he didn't realize he was out of state, didn't know the laws on state reciprocation, or he was just ignorant all the way around. In any event, not good for anyone.
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August 30th, 2011 12:03 AM
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Yep, It is my opinion that 10 - 20% of people who carry probably should not be allowed. Can't fix stupid.
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August 30th, 2011 02:09 AM
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Is the charge a misdemeanor or a felony,if it's a felony and he is convicted,then he will lose his right to carry anywhere
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August 30th, 2011 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Is the charge a misdemeanor or a felony,if it's a felony and he is convicted,then he will lose his right to carry anywhere
I believe in the Peoples Republic of Maryland it is a felony charge.
If your going to carry, know the laws of the state your in and traveling through. There are too many resources available NOT to know the law.
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August 30th, 2011 09:19 AM
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It is incumbent on those of us with permits to KNOW the laws regarding carry in our own state cold. It is our responsibility to (at the very least) familiarize ourselves with the laws of the states we are traveling thru.
Until the permit is treated like a drivers license (valid in all states), we can't be stupid about it.
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August 30th, 2011 09:21 AM
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Whats a "Highpoint?" LOL.
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August 30th, 2011 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Exactly my point. I have a lot of friends in MD working and hoping the "may issue" is changed to "shall issue".
It will probably never happen in either your lifetime or mine. I lived in Baltimore for 18 years and the anti-gun sentiment in both houses of the legislature is famous for their quashing of anything that even smacks of supporting the 2nd Amendment. There hasn't been a pro-gun AG in Maryland in at least the last 25 years.
My wife was assaulted outside our home, just two blocks from the Inner Harbor, and it took BPD over 20 minutes to respond.
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August 30th, 2011 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Exactly my point. I have a lot of friends in MD working and hoping the "may issue" is changed to "shall issue". As I grew up in MD, I'm very glad that I now live in a state where shall issue is the norm and Castle Doctrine is now in place. This is often how main stream media gives law abiding gun owners, and those OC/CC'ers a bad wrap, utilizing the evil gun crimes and never noting the positive impacts such as lower crime rates, etc.

From what I understand usually when a state goes from may issue to shall issue, they also allow for reciprocal honoring of out of state licenses because they overhaul so much of the law that they throw that in. It would really be something if MD were to allow licenses from other states. As a Florida resident, I have to go completely unarmed when I visit my parents in MD.
I wonder, however, whether "shall issue" is enough. I think MD also requires a permit to purchase and possess a handgun, as well as registration. So maybe even with shall issue and reciprocal arrangements, you might have to do something else to bring in a handgun, even as a tourist, into MD.
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August 30th, 2011 11:12 AM
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Whats a "Highpoint?" LOL.
A HiPoint is a brand of inexpensive weapon that is known to be accurate, reliable after break in, guaranteed for life, and equally capable of killing a person as any other brand of handgun. Generally too heavy and cumbersome for concealed carry on person, they can make a very good "trunk gun" or "truck gun."
Some have been known to fail after having some 20,000 rounds put through them. But a quick, painless trip back to the factory results in a complete rebuild, at no cost (except shipping) and the owner would probably get a free additional magazine on it's return.
So, LOL back at ya bud.. this ain't a snob forum. Carry whatever you can afford to, do so responsibly (unlike the fellow in the article), and best wishes to you.
Read:
The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker
In The Gravest Extreme by Massad Ayoob
The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn
From every encounter or scenario; yours, someone else's, real, or not...
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August 30th, 2011 11:29 AM
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Ugh, gotta pay attention man! And if it was spotted, he wasn't CCing very well now was he.
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August 30th, 2011 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Yep, It is my opinion that 10 - 20% of people who carry probably should not be allowed. Can't fix stupid.
This. The same goes for driving and from much the same members of the population.
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August 30th, 2011 03:08 PM
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I understand gun rights activism and the proper use of civil disobedience, but that was just plain stupid.
I don't carry a gun to look for or start a fight. I carry one to finish a fight I never wanted to be in.
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