Local Store Visit While CC
This is a discussion on Local Store Visit While CC within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by LeadReign
Everyday carry have become a way of life for me since I obtained my CC permit. All the Goodies from Flashlight, ...
September 12th, 2011 04:59 PM
You're carrying too much "stuff". That and your body language gave you away. And/or you were printing
Originally Posted by LeadReign
September 13th, 2011 12:28 PM
ITW, A security guard most likely would attack to restrain a person not to harm or kill someone. Of course if the security person was presenting a leathel threat, one would take appropate action. If one was restrained then it is better to let the lawyers fight it out. I never would agree to let someone do great harm to you.
September 13th, 2011 12:33 PM
What kind of clothes do you wear?
Some may consider it an unjustified biased, but I don't...I'm more likely to trust someone dressed respectably than someone wearing baggy pants and skull-printed shirt.
“Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.”
September 13th, 2011 01:28 PM
Guess you go bonkers when you see a Spikes Tactical tee shirt with the skull on front and spider on back.
Originally Posted by GunKeen
As to the baggy pants, sorry it's an old mans disease, bad case of Noassatall.
Don't shoot, it's just me.
September 13th, 2011 01:38 PM
BkCo1, I understand what you're saying.
Originally Posted by BkCo1
But if you're carrying you have to assume any physical altercation has the potential to relieve you of your weapon.
At the point your weapon retention is in jeopardy, you no longer have control of it or control of how it can be used.
This is weapon retention 101, and isn't covered adequately in most CC classes in my opinion.
Unless it's a law enforcement officer, you can't take that risk. That means if a security guard invades your space or tries to get touchy feely on you, you say in a loud voice;
'step back, I'm legally armed.'
Then take whatever action is necessary to prevent anyone from overpowering you.
This is where it can get dicey in a public environment. Because if you're in a store, and store security suspects you have a weapon, doesn't understand the law and attempts to be a hero you risk other patrons/shoppers joining in against the guy with the gun. At that point you've got multiple people all fighting over control of your weapon. That could get ugly fast.
IMO, you can't afford to be intimidated when carrying by anyone that's not an LEO. By law they don't have the legal authority to detain you, restrain you or disarm you. All they can legally do is ask you to leave.
And if they try to get physical on you or take your weapon, at that point your life is in jeopardy. Perhaps from an accidental discharge, perhaps in the heat of the moment a bystander gets ahold of it.
Thanks for the welcome.
September 13th, 2011 01:41 PM
Just wondering...given certain discussions I have been in...how do we know the "rent-a-goon" did not see himself as a sheepdog, and was concerned he had spotted a wolf?
Originally Posted by noway2
"To predict the behavior of ordinary people in advance, you only have to assume that they will always try to escape a disagreeable situation with the smallest possible expenditure of intelligence." Friedrich Nietzsche
September 13th, 2011 02:35 PM
Pretty much every day like this switch out shorts for pants in winter.
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