We've GOT to tighten up the permit process!

We've GOT to tighten up the permit process!

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    We've GOT to tighten up the permit process!

    This is incredibly serious and represents a real challenge to us as a society in keeping our children safe. We must keep these very dangerous implements out of the hands of irresponsible people and especially remove them from the vicinity of our children. Just look at the statistic snapshot below:

    "Of the 24,200 children treated last year in U.S. emergency rooms for shopping-cart-related injuries, 74 percent suffered head and neck injuries, 85 percent were under 5, and 4 percent were injured seriously enough to be admitted to the hospital, according to the academy."

    Oh Gosh, Shopping carts! I'm so embarrassed, I'd just assumed we'd been talking about concealed handguns. I could just hang my head in shame for such inattention.


    The above link contains "the rest of the story" as Paul Harvey says.

    Well, almost:

    University of Michigan health system

    "• In 1999, 3,385 kids ages 0-19 years were killed with a gun. This includes homicides, suicides, and unintentional injuries.
    • This is equivalent to about 9 deaths per day, a figure commonly used by journalists.
    • The 3,385 firearms-related deaths for age group 0-19 years breaks down to:
    o 214 unintentional
    o 1,078 suicides
    o 1,990 homicides
    o 83 for which the intent could not be determined
    o 20 due to legal intervention
    • Of the total firearms-related deaths:
    o 73 were of children under five years old
    o 416 were children 5-14 years old
    o 2,896 were 15-19 years old
    In addition to firearm deaths, we need to look at how many children and young people are hurt by guns. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that in 1997, 2,514 children aged 0-14 were non-fatally injured by guns.

    Looks like - if you're 0 to 14 years old - you desperately need a permit process implemented for shopping carts, including concealed shopping carts most particularly. (Compare those numbers!)

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    I blame the parents.

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    Dont get me started on the U of M

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    whats this got to do with concealed carry.....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZG23
    whats this got to do with concealed carry.....?
    Ancillary data? Kinda keeps things in perspective

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    It has never been "for the children". It never will be. Even if all guns were outlawed and no "gun crime" was ever committed again, it would be so other weapon system, most likely the knife.

    Most of the people in the anti-gun crowd are just afraid. They live in constent fear of the real world, which they know isn't all that nice. The "feel" that if all weapons systems were outlawed then it would be the garden of eden.

    They live this fear each and every day. They fear everything but they, being who they are, don't wish to place the blame upon the actual criminal or person, but the tool used.

    To them, it is compassion to 'forgive' the criminal but to demonize the tool.

    If guns hadn't been invented yet (present), they would be called the anti-sword/bow/dagger crowd. They would demand that all these weapons be highly restricted or that only the government/military (and we know how that worked out in the middle ages) should own such "assault" weapons.

    In the year 2050, if the People are still allowed to own weapons, they will become the anti-phaser/ray gun crowd.

    When the People finally realized that guns, or the weapons of the time, was the only thing that would take them from under the rule of the king/queen, they left and created a new country with new God given rights (may that country rest in peace, for it is no longer here).

    Just like other countries realized that weapons of the time were needed when they were caught underarmed (England and France). Weapons were given to them en masse by their ally.

    Yet, after years of not having to fight upon their own soil, the Peoples of those countries became complacent, and once again the governments disarmed the People. And it's slowly happening here.

    The only sad thing is that all these countries have been hit upon their soil once again, yet instead of taking the winning approach as it was taken back then, they are trying to use it to push more gun control, so that they will have more control.

    Of course, those with open eyes and some intelligence, see what is going to happen, have seen what has happened, and are quite frankly depressed when they realize that it may very well happen.

    Yet, those who wish to live in their idea of security, their idea of no fear, will always continue to spend their money, to try to change the minds of the People, to try to make their garden of eden, of which will never manifest but will become their (and ours) hell.

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