Can't carry @ work, do you store your gun in car all day?

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    Can't carry @ work, do you store your gun in car all day?

    I got my permit a few months ago and after some additional training classes and practice I think I'm finally ready to start carrying. I can't carry at work so I'd be leaving my pistol in the car all day after catching the bus. I want to get comfortable carrying and will certainly do so on weekends but it hardly seems worth it for the 5 mile ride to and from the bus station during the week. I'm curious if anyone else is in a similar situation?

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    Welcome to the forum sir. I don't take the bus, but I drive 20 miles to work from Detroit to my main office, then most days to a client site where I have a desk, going through some rough areas of the city of Pontiac, MI. (Police force disbanded due to a bankrupt city...it's patrolled by State Police and county sheriffs.). Since my company (and the client) have "no weapons" policies, I leave Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson in the car, but they're comforting to have during the drive through the mean streets. I also leave it in the car when I'm at the gym in the morning, not wanting to trust the cheap little locker locks. Less than optimum I suppose, but at least I'm armed most of the time during a given day. And with the neighborhood I live in (less than 1 mile from one of the highest-crime precincts in Detroit), I have the MP40c or the Ruger GP100 in my waistband at all times at home, even with wife and kids about. They're used to it...
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    I can't carry at work either, so I leave my M1911A1 in my car all day. The car is in a relatively safe area, so I'm OK with that given the circumstances. Otherwise, I carry 24/7 whenever and wherever legal, and I actively avoid going places where I cannot carry. When it's not legal and I can't avoid it, then Mr. Kimber stays in the car waiting patiently for my return. I miss him, though, whenever we're apart.
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    center mass safe in your car (on in the saddle bag of your bike ) is a very good option. I have been using one for 3 years now with 8 months of that in the saddle bag. I would NOT leave it in a park and ride lot. I would drive to work or leave it in the safe at home. it is very common for cars to get jacked or broken into at a park and rides because there is no one aroung durring the day, usaly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fmcgraw View Post
    I got my permit a few months ago and after some additional training classes and practice I think I'm finally ready to start carrying. I can't carry at work so I'd be leaving my pistol in the car all day after catching the bus. I want to get comfortable carrying and will certainly do so on weekends but it hardly seems worth it for the 5 mile ride to and from the bus station during the week. I'm curious if anyone else is in a similar situation?
    Can't carry @ work, do you store your gun in car all day?
    You need to as yourself:
    Why do I carry?
    If it is to protect your life.
    Ask yourself what is more important, your life or your job?
    Then decide what to do.
    A. Obey the rules of work.
    B. Disobey the rules and hope you do not get caught.
    C. Look for a different job.
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    Some type of small safe bolted to the car is a good idea for the car. For work you might want to look into pepper spray.

    The way I answer your question of whether it is worth it is, how would I feel if I had a permit, got into a situation where I needed my firearm, but was not carrying it because I choose not to? I'd feel like and idiot at the least. Maybe even worse. I choose not to put myself in that situation.

    You may even find that you feel odd not carrying when you get used to it. That makes it even easier.
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    As chiefjason said, a small safe/vault secured in your vehicle to store your gun in is needed. Never leave it just locked in the car. If someone breaks in, and it is not secured, they can get it. Most vehicle break ins are a crime of opportunity, a quick break and grab. Some type of safe will thwart those.

    As to whether it is worth it to carry for a 5 mile trip to parking, I would say yes. You never know when or where something bad is going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fmcgraw View Post
    I got my permit a few months ago and after some additional training classes and practice I think I'm finally ready to start carrying. I can't carry at work so I'd be leaving my pistol in the car all day after catching the bus. I want to get comfortable carrying and will certainly do so on weekends but it hardly seems worth it for the 5 mile ride to and from the bus station during the week. I'm curious if anyone else is in a similar situation?
    I also drive to the park and ride (in Houston) and take the 45 minute bus ride to down town. Fortunately, my company does not have a policy against CC, so I can either carry in my pocket or have the weapon in my backpack. On days when I have to drive to the client site, I leave the gun in a Center Mass car safe that is secured. I put a small floor mat colored towel over it so you cannot see it when walking by. A perp would have to have the time to smash the car open, get out his bolt cutters and go to work. Not something that smash and grab folks in a park and ride lot really want to do.

    Even if you do decide to keep the gun in your car (rather than "risk it" by CC at work), you are probably more likely to meet a bad guy coming out of your house or loitering in the park and ride lot and I would sure like to have my CC then.

    Just my two cents.....

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    Every day she goes in her holster before I leave the house. I am not allowed to carry at work and I choose to respect that; and I leave my firearm in the center console of my truck. The latch is broken on it and it can only be opened a special way :) I figure it is out of sight and not easily accessible for a smash and grab, and I do not leave it in areas where my truck is not highly visible to everyone at the office that has windows. I would say that you should carry as often as you can, and you can on your way to the bus station.
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    Before the military I would disarm when I get to work, and stow it in my in car safe. Now in the Army, I can't carry on post so I leave it at home all together. If I were you I would continue to carry to the bus stop and leave it in your car. Who knows when you have to run to the grocery store or something before going home.

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    Thanks all. I think I will carry whenever I can, including the short trip to the bus. I do have a NanoVault for the car and will just be careful no one sees me stow the pistol. I'm a little leery of it sitting in the car all day at the lot but will have to get used to it.

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    I also leave my weapon in my vehicle during my day job, but I also carry a knife and light 24/7.

    Firearms aren't always the answer but if absolutely needed have a route/plan set to arm yourself.
    If it's that important to you find a different line of work.

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    I have no idea where you work, what the workforce is, or why they felt the need for a "no weapons" policy. However, in my years as a VP of operations at a corporate job (and having to work daily with the HR folks), I know most of these "cover all bases" policies are more insurance driven than actual philosophy stance. Being that you are in a high-crime area, you might peacefully approach this topic with your employer and express your concerns for safety (be sure to discuss or mention current safety implementations at your workplace.....security officer, keycard access, evacuation plans...or LACK THERE OF). Simply ask them about looking at a policy that allowed licensed law abiding citizens to carry and provide positive scenario solutions as a result of on site "sheepdogs". My policy has always been "people can't say YES if you don't ask the question." Heck, even if it meant an increase in their liability insurance, I am guessing most people would even pay a "registration fee" with their HR department if it meant being able to protect yourself in the time of need. HR requires that this type of information stays confidential (as to who has the right to carry) and God forbid if a situation arose, truth be told, they would be glad you were around, if nothing else...for an armed escort as they evacuate.

    Finally, as I understand it...here in Texas anyway...the private "no weapons policy" (NOT A POSTED LEGAL SIGN) usually won't hold up against your STATE issued right to carry if a life or death situation arose and you were able to PREVENT a worse crime from happening. NOTE: I AM NOT A LAWYER NOR DO I PRETEND TO BE ONE....but it is my understanding that the "no weapons policy" of a private business has no legal ramifications (again, check with your local laws). It is no different than "no shoes, no shirt, no service." You may get fired, but at least you would still be alive to be fired!

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    Can't even legally leave it in a lock box in my car unless I park off school grounds (which is only an option at one of my 4 schools) Sadly this will never change and we're sitting ducks.

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