Crime in decline, but why? Low inflation among theories

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    Crime in decline, but why? Low inflation among theories

    Once again, every reason they can think, BUT 1!

    Crime in decline, but why? Low inflation cited - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

    1. An aging U.S. population.
    2. More toys, less property crime.
    3. Low inflation.
    4. More and smarter policing.

    How about the fact that they are afraid of getting their arse shot off!!!

    Not once do they mention the fact that criminals are afraid that more people are carrying guns for protection and criminals are afraid of being shot.
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    I’m not really sure of the accuracy of the information but more States are making it easier for citizens to carry concealed, with laws to protect citizens in lawful shootings. Not even harden criminals like being shot so maybe the BG's are thinking twice.
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    I suspect that one aspect of the "study", is to show the declining need for guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    I suspect that one aspect of the "study", is to show the declining need for guns.
    I tend to agree with your suspicion...and will include my own that it's an attempt by an otherwise unsuccessful Administration to put some kind of "happy face" on the current depress...er.....REcess....er....RECOVERY.
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    Anybody can make anything read whatever they want with stats.
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    Society just might survive if enough good people with guns make it so. Gun ownership will NEVER get the credit it deserves. We all know better but they have their answers. Reality has nothing to do with it.
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    I noticed crime went down the same year I started sleeping on my right side....

    Prove this didn't cause it.

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    While we who carry would like to think that it can be attributed to the fact that more and more people can do so; and that more and more people have weapons in their homes, that is not the only reason, and may not be the primary reason.

    'Lies, Damned lies, and Statistics.'

    I believe that it is one way the government can say "See, we don't need gunzez no more. It's a safer world." But, that can be reasonably countered with "The reason there is less crime is that there are more gunzez. Read the paper, see all the crimes."

    So the stats prove nothing either way... Carry on. It is your right. Don't let it lapse through disuse.
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    Got to wonder how they got the figures. My small town - less than 40,000, has seen an upswing in shootings, murders, copper thefts, and other assorted crimes over the past year. These figures were taken from our local paper.
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    The answer that main stream press would give is that your local paper is "A bunch of Tea Party sympathizer, out to make the administration look bad".
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    Figures lie, and liars figure...
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    Assuming these figures are accurate (and of course that's always a big if when you're talking statistics, irrespective of what you're trying to demonstrate with them), I'd be interested to see what cities have had the biggest drops in crime - to me THAT would be a bigger indicator of whether citizen gun ownership is playing a role. Some of the nationwide leaders in crime rates over the past decade are major cities in states/regions in states that are generally NOT gun friendly, i.e. Oakland, Chicago, Boston, Milwakee, NYC, Buffalo, etc. Conversely, there are other high crime cities in gun friendly states: Memphis, Miami, Nashville, Atlanta, Detroit, etc. I'd be interested to see how those chips have fallen.

    On the other hand, again, assuming the figures are accurate, it's encouraging to see crime dropping irrespective of what the cause is. Obviously I own a gun and carry, but I think it's safe to say I'm not alone in saying that I'd much rather never be put in a position where I have to put my range time to real life use. The ideal outcome for me is that all the time and money spent at the range remains nothing more than a relaxing and enjoyable way to spend time with my wife and family on a Saturday morning.

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    Why is there less crime?

    The cell phone.

    In the old days one had to find a phone to report an incident or something suspicious. Many didn't bother. Today one just picks up their phone and dials 911.

    The fact is, most crime is of the non-violent sort. And most criminals like to avoid confrontations with people whether armed or not.

    Not to mention the fact that it is not lawful for a citizen to use deadly force against someone suspected of a crime, except in self defense.
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    Violent crime has been dropping since the mid 1990's and that is about when many states started passing concealed carry laws.
    Even though most gun owners have access to "high capacity" magazines, crime is down.
    More states than ever have concealed carry and crime is down.
    Anti-gun people got an explanation for that?
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