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This is a discussion on Do you think this is safe or unsafe? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Thanks everyone. It seem everyone is in my line of thinking. I'll have to invite him over and let him read the responses. BTW, I ...

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    Thanks everyone. It seem everyone is in my line of thinking. I'll have to invite him over and let him read the responses.

    BTW, I do have a P229 and it is always decocked when a round is in the chamber unless I'm at the range and getting ready to shoot it...


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    Man, oh, man, talk about a NG waiting to happen!

    I'd be going de-cocked, all the way here.

    Otherwise, it's like a 1911 cocked and de-locked. Without a grip safety!

    I'd need kevlar leggings and steel shoes.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by tn_sig
    I recently had this discussion with my Father in-law and I'm curious to see what the consensus is here...

    Do you think it's safe or unsafe to CCW a Sig P229 cocked (the hammer back) or do you think it should be decocked?
    I think it's absolutely not safe to carry a P-229 cocked!
    I mean, why? If you get in a shooting situation... you're not at the range!
    You'll be so much more likely to have an "accidental discharge" in single action with the P-229 especially when drawing or re-holstering. A 1911 has a safety when "cocked and locked", SIG wasn't meant to be carried that way.

    JMHO.
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    Are bad things going to happen if you carry a Sig cocked in the holster? Probably not, but the potential for them to happen increases significantly.

    There is no reason not to carry a Sig decocked. The DA trigger is completely manageable. A little time and effort at the range and you can deliver an accurate first shot without compromising safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Glock
    yeah, thats why I asked about the trigger pull (lbs). Forgive my ignorance about sigs triggers lbs.
    I have both a standard SIG and an SAS SIG.

    On the SAS the trigger pull is approximately 6#, every shot.
    The standard SIG has a much heaver double action pull but a much lighter single action pull than the SAS. Sorry, I don't know the actual #'s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Glock
    Just curious... what is the trigger pull when your sig is cocked?
    Per my Armorers' Manual: 4.4 lbs.

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    My response to anybody has ever asked me a question like that is "if you have to ask, you already know the answer" Theres a reason it has a decocker.
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    Stop reading and decock now. If you want to go cocked and locked buy a 1911
    Listen, Think and React.....Nuff Said.....

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    Like most everyone is saying, DECOCK it!
    Last edited by p8riot; August 10th, 2006 at 04:38 PM.
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    Never, Ever Carry A Sig Cocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The factory manual specifically states this many, many, many times in big red bold letters!!!!!!!

    I carry a P-228 and would never dream of ever cocking it.
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    Late to the party but - DECOCK the sucker

    That is the intended and very safe mode for carry - just practice draw and single DA shooting to accomodate the feel. Double taps even more useful as you have to transition DA to SA.
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    A real bad scenario would be chambering a round - not decocking - & then removing the mag to top it off & reinserting the fully stoked magazine with the pistol still fully cocked.
    Very "iffy" and unprofessional pistolcraft.

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    Decocked. That's how the pistol is designed to be carried, and the DA trigger pull is part of the weapon's intergral safety engineering.

    NEVER circumvent a weapon's safety features.

    If you wanna carry cocked & locked get a 1911.


    Quote Originally Posted by tn_sig
    I recently had this discussion with my Father in-law and I'm curious to see what the consensus is here...

    Do you think it's safe or unsafe to CCW a Sig P229 cocked (the hammer back) or do you think it should be decocked?
    "I am a Soldier. I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight." GEN George S. Patton, Jr.

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    nope - carrying a DA/SA Sig cocked is BAD juju !

    I have unintentionally double tapped at the range after firing
    the first shot DA due to the light SA pull AND because I
    got LAZY
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