This is a discussion on Need some advice on traveling with my pistols...asking the experts! within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by MadMac This step got me in trouble as I was flying Delta via Detroit Metro. I had been to Utah, and was ...
"To believe that social reforms can eradicate evil altogether is to forget that evil is a protean creature, forever assuming a new shape when deprived of an old one." - SAT
Never argue with an idiot - they'll bring you down to their level then beat you with experience.
I know what all the rules say, but think about it. Putting the declaration tag inside your locked firearms case (for which only YOU should have the key), is senseless. There's no way any TSA agent or luggage handler can tell you declared it while the gun is enroute. Taping it to the outside of the firearms case makes the most sense. Plus, the "official" airline tape makes it look "official" to all the thieving, badge-wearing creeps employed in the bowels of our airports.
As for me, I would drive, as it allows me to see other parts of our country. Also then I don't have to take off my shoes, or have my DEPENDS checked for a bomb by some clown working for the TSA.
" The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson
Mad Mac, I have had similar problems with the unloaded card. I have done what the ticket agent says and still have been called on it. I agree it should be outside of the gun case. Makes one wonder doesn't it?
Of course, putting it on the outside of the safe opens you up to some jerk wanting to mess with you. He steals the tag then how do you prove you went through the procedure properly. You can probably get there, but it sure would be a mess. I would take a photo of the tag in my safe then shut and lock the safe and have the photo to show the cops if they inquire. You may still have to walk to your bag, but then again, you may not.
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You are only paranoid until you are right - then you are a visionary.
I don't want to miss a connection again because I have to have an interview with the local LEOs and the TSA.
Also, I never actually use the word "gun" while having a discussion with an agent as people can get hinky if they overhear. I tell the agent sotto voce I am traveling with an UNLOADED firearm. I once had some nosy kid at the check-in counter get an eyeful of my Glock. The look on his face was priceless as he started tugging on his dad's shirt tail while staring like a carp as I demonstrated the gun was unloaded.
I have asked Port Authority do you want move my suitcase to the around so not to scare the sheep? Yea, good call. The one PA officer who busted my chops took the gun out of the case and was walking around with it while on the phone with NC Pistol licensing. I had a gun lock up the mag well and out the ejection port but he was not even thinking as we was walking around in his own world.
It may be OK if you have NYS permit, and some friends in the PA, but I'm just a poor, dumb cracker from down south with a southern state CHP. If I have to fly through or to JFK, EWR, LGA, MDW, ORD, and anyplace in CA or overseas, my guns wait patiently for me at home. It's not worth jail time.