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This is a discussion on Crockett Keller May Loose CHL Instructor Lic. for Radio Ad within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by azchevy Actually there are laws in this country against certain kinds of discrimination. I suggest you familiarize yourself with them. I get ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by azchevy View Post
    Actually there are laws in this country against certain kinds of discrimination. I suggest you familiarize yourself with them.

    I get worked up because bigoted racist donkey holes like this really give the rest of the conservative firearm owning Americans a bad bad name. Just like that worthless waste of oxygen JT Ready who is protesting at OWS in phoenix carrying AR's.
    Would you like to tell us how you REALLY feel? LOL
    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverickx50 View Post
    Would you like to tell us how you REALLY feel? LOL
    I wasn't clear?

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    What I find most interesting is that he probably didn't need to say these things at all. He lives in a really small town in south Texas. How many "Communist Liberals" and "non-Christian Muslims" could there possibly be in that town who would want to take the class in the first place?
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    Heck, some of my best friends are bigoted racist donkey holes..............


    Wait, wasn't that line used else where?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PB2 View Post
    What I find most interesting is that he probably didn't need to say these things at all. He lives in a really small town in south Texas. How many "Communist Liberals" and "non-Christian Muslims" could there possibly be in that town who would want to take the class in the first place?
    Great point. Some folks just like to put their foot in their big mouths.
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    This Country is where is it today because WE The People allowed the PC law makers make laws and regs that take away our rights to speak what we feel because it may hurt someones feelings. No where in the Constitution does it say you can speak only what don't hurt someones feeling. I do think it needs to be truthfull and just. Question, What did Crockett say that was not truthfull and just? He only stated what he would not do and who he would not allow in his class.

    My understanding he was doing a ad for his local radio station which had a 30 to 50 mile range he never dreamed of it being heard by anyone but locals, then ad went viral. And he is now standing on his beliefs. To me that shows class, while I may not agree with what he said and how he said it, but once its said then I think it takes a man to stand by it. If you don't stand for something you stand for nothing and I think most people today stand for nothing. Can't we just get along? Don't rock the boat.

    Will he lose his right to teach the CCW classes? Most likely! Why? Because we have let those who want a different country than what the US was at the start take over. Guys it's time to say enough is enough and take this country BACK. We do that by throwing the whole bunch out and putting those in who are not Professional Politicians. Judges too!

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    What still makes this country great is that we all have and can openly share different point of views. When a view is shares as publicly as this it can and usually does have negative ramifications. Still we each get to chose to agree, disagree. or even both at the same time. Many places in this world, including those from which we are here discussing do not have that privilege. it's one way or a slow painful death. I agree we are currently to much a green tree hugging liberal state. It will and has swung many times before. If we were a right leaning let them swim or die state I'd be just as unhappy. And...at the point where I'd be very pleased many of you and others would be unhappy. So we all keep fighting, preaching, voting, changing, and guess what. We still have the worst political system in the world except for all the rest.

    Not sure this means anything but had to get it off my chest.
    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PB2 View Post
    What I find most interesting is that he probably didn't need to say these things at all. He lives in a really small town in south Texas. How many "Communist Liberals" and "non-Christian Muslims" could there possibly be in that town who would want to take the class in the first place?
    Which of course is why he did say those things. He no doubt expected to score some risk free points playing to his own audience. All mouth and no trousers.
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    One chooses to be offended. I choose not to be offended by what some man says or supposedly thinks whether its this guy, some yahoo like Farrakhan or the Ayatollah of some forsaken armpit of a nation that is composed of sand and a few palm trees.

    Do I think he should lose his FFL or his certification because he spoke his opinion?
    Absolutely not. He spoke what he believed to be the truth...nothing more, nothing less.

    If that offends the liberalazis then so be it...I personally have better things to do then get all worked up over crap that don't matter.

    No one has to attend his class and it is his right to do as he pleases. If I don't want to teach Catholics then they don't need to apply, after all it is a PRIVATE affair. If I want to teach fat,over 50 white guys that have lots of money, then it is my right to limit my private classes to cater exclusively to that clientèle without listening to a bunch of mamby pamby Bravo Sierra by people that are too stupid to let it go in one ear and out the other and people that aren't bright enough to realize that being "politically correct" is a form of socialism in itself that is destructive to our way of life.

    This isn't a government sponsored class here people. He is doing this class on his time, on his property and he is doing it with his money.

    I don't see this as being any different than people chanting hate slogans at a Mosque, anticipating the day that they can take over America. We let them do that in the name of freedom of speech, so whats different about some guy speaking his mind on a Radio ad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill MO View Post
    Question, What did Crockett say that was not truthfull and just? He only stated what he would not do and who he would not allow in his class.
    And that statement was that he would break the law. It is not free speech when you proclaim that you will take an illegal action. And that is why DPS is considering revoking his license.
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    Whatever the case is, saying you will break the law and actually doing it are two different things.

    The man got his point across and his message has been the talk of message boards all over the place.

    I'd say his little ad campaign worked better than he anticipated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azchevy View Post
    There is free speech and then there is discrimination. Protected classes include race, color, and religion..... he is discriminating in a radio ad for his business based upon religion.... so yes the government should step in and deal with it in accordance with the US anti-discrimination laws.
    Agreed. I think there are many places the govt should stay out of but we do have some basic anti-discrimination laws that are federal....and based on our Constitution, IMO...for example, the right for all to safely practice any religion they choose, to me, translates into we must not discriminate on the basis of religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doubledown View Post
    Obviously this has you quite worked up. Have you never seen signs that say "we reserve the right to refuse service"? So by your definition I as a business owner must sell my product or service to anyone that wants it correct? Does that apply to banks? They have chosen to discriminate against poor people by not giving them loans. The gas station on the corner will not take my check so if I don't have a credit card and the bank is closed to get cash they are discriminating against me...right?

    Honestly I don't see what the problem is. If you don't like his decision take your business to someone else. I do it all the time.
    Yes, but there are protected classes under state and federal govts. Poor people are not a protected class. Nor are rude people or people without shirts or shoes. Minorities are a protected class, for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill MO View Post
    This Country is where is it today because WE The People allowed the PC law makers make laws and regs that take away our rights to speak what we feel because it may hurt someones feelings. No where in the Constitution does it say you can speak only what don't hurt someones feeling. I do think it needs to be truthfull and just. Question, What did Crockett say that was not truthfull and just? He only stated what he would not do and who he would not allow in his class.
    I think the issue here that got him in legal trouble is not that he shot his mouth off about his opinions, but stated along with those opinions that his business would discriminate against protected classes of people (I.e. he would not serve "certain groups of people.") Perhaps I misunderstood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Whatever the case is, saying you will break the law and actually doing it are two different things.

    The man got his point across and his message has been the talk of message boards all over the place.

    I'd say his little ad campaign worked better than he anticipated.
    I dont know. I wouldnt take a class from him.

    When I hear ignorance of that extreme, it basically damages all his credibility...so I wouldnt trust him to have a solid grasp of shooting skills and laws either.
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