This is a discussion on "Don't be a victim of your own mistakes, Shoot or Don't Shoot" within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by MitchellCT Like I said, I don't believe the walking into a deal and getting attacked story. I don't think you are the ...
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I don't know if the post is true or not, but IF it was..I would rely on my instinct at the moment. If I percieve I'm not threatened anymore, I won't pull the trigger. If I do, I will, and deal with that choice later. All you can do before hand is train,train,train and that will help in your decision.
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Actually he says he's from Shingle Springs,, that's about a 100 miles from Oakland and it's drug infested streets. Shingle Springs is a small, primarily white rural communtity with very little crime. A search of the Eldorado County sherrifs logs turns up nothing of a crime matching the OP's account. The call for BS is probably the correct one. Unless this guy drives 100 miles to Oakland to walk his dog.
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I absoluely agree with your decision not to take the shot. Of course, we can't back shoot when they are fleeing; however, I would suggest that there should be a legal exception that allows a below the waist disabling shot. Granted, we all may not have the ability to accurately make that shot under pressure; but it would sure give the cops something to look for when they canvas the hospitals.
If they were that close and my dog didnt bark, growl or wag his tail at least, I would get me another dog!! I am unsure as to what I would do if I were laying there bleeding while they tried to finish the job. i know if they were within 30 ft, I would still be in fear for my life.
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Wow! Smart not to take the shot. In Washington, you must establish that there is an imminent threat to your life at the moment you pull the trigger. I can't even imaging how a CA jury would look at this...
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By that statute, the person had already committed the felony and/or done great personal injury so the use of deadly force would not be lawful.Homicide is also justifiable when committed either:
(1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his or her presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or
(2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his or her presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he or she is.
Relavent excerpt from Wikipedia on Deadly Force:
In the United States, a civilian may legally use deadly force when it is considered justifiable homicide, that is to say when the civilian feels their own life, or the lives of their family or those around them are in legitimate and imminent danger. However, self-defense resulting in usage of deadly force by a civilian or civilians against an individual or individuals is often subject to examination by a court if it is unclear whether it was necessary at the point of the offense, and whether any further action on the part of the law needs to be taken.