This is a discussion on Magazine Carry Position: Bullets Forward or Rearward? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I carry them with the tips forward, but I draw a mag as described above. For folks who draw a mag differently (why? I dunno) ...
I carry them with the tips forward, but I draw a mag as described above. For folks who draw a mag differently (why? I dunno) it may be faster to go with them backward. Rob Pincus taught me this at a Combat Focus Shooting class, and he was right. It's not for me, but it may be for someone. Dif'rent (draw) strokes for dif'rent folks.
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I voted for bullets facing forward because when I ordered my mag holder that's the way it was made. I agree that this method works well but I can see that it would be possible to have a mag holder made to carry bullets facing rearward and with proper technique and training learn to do a reload just as fast.
The whole point is practice how you carry.
Their are methods which have been tested in competition and in job environments in which the use of arms is required, and for those areas, it's not an issue of "This is the way I do it, so I'm just gonna do it because I like it better or I wanna be different..."
It's an issue of winning or loosing.
It's an issue of people trying things out, seeing if they work better on the clock - literally, on the timer - to decide if it's a better method or not.
The average untrained person can lob about 4 rounds a second at a target. Will they hit it? Duno, but 4 RPS is 4 RPS...all engraved "To whom it may consern" on the bullet.
If something can take time off your shooting, it's gonna take time away from the šáàíûé â ðîò áëÿäü (It's Russian, and it's DIRTY...) shooting at you.
Practicing a sub optimal method only gets you a well practiced sub optimal method.
If someone is so emotionally invested in doing it the way they want to over the best way, good on them.
I hope it works out for them.
Reminds me of all the people who want to carry a different gun or use different sights than most of "the herd." Not because something they evaluated and found to be better...
Because they want to be distinctive.
You know...the guy who wants to have something other than a Glock/SIG/M&P/H&K/1911(that works...) equipped with XS/Warren/Trijicon/Heinie/Hackthorn/Ameriglo sights...not because he's faster or shoots better with his toy than any of those, but because "Everyone carries that. I wanna be special."
You wanna be special, or you wanna win?
Yeah, and do you know why Gangsta’s hold their gun sideways? Because that’s the way it comes out of the box.I voted for bullets facing forward because when I ordered my mag holder that's the way it was made.
The key word here is "proper" technique. I coach National & World Champion Shooters and I'm ALWAYS looking for a better way to shoot. So, let me know when you find it.I agree that this method works well but I can see that it would be possible to have a mag holder made to carry bullets facing rearward and with proper technique and training learn to do a reload just as fast.
Last edited by DRM; November 21st, 2011 at 12:01 PM.
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What is a yabit?
Someone who, when talking to a subject matter expert, 'agrees' with him, then starts his argument with "Yeah, but..."
DRM, your shooting ability and that of your students isn't worth anything to Yabits.
They know you've worked hard and put in the time to develop it, and have had your success...but you are blind because of it, and refuse to see that their are other, just as successful ways, and if only you'd open your mind, you'd see that their idea can be just as good as yours.
Kinda like telling a Professional Heavy Weight boxer about how Aikido is just as effective as what he practices, and if he'd be willing to give it a opportunity to try it, it would change his mind, but he's too blind by years of rendering other people unconcious or terminally stupid with left hooks and uppercuts that can take people's head off to see.
I voted forward. That's the way I learned and it works for me. Haven't seen a better way yet.
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Bullets forward here. Never even thought of carrying with them facing the other way, didn't make sense to me.
Looking at the results of the poll, I am dismayed to see we still have members here who do not carry a spare mag. It seems that they don't understand that the primary reason to carry a spare mag isn't so you will have a reload in case of a protracted gun fight as those rarely happen to civilians, but to have a second mag in case of a mag failure, which is the most common type of failure for modern semi-auto handguns.
Well I voted "other", because the rounds in my mag while I'm carrying point off to the side (to the right), rather than forward. If I carried the mag at 9:00 they would point forward, but I like it around 11:00 where it complements my G26 at 1:30. At any rate, I carry it like that so when I pull the mag, it is in exactly the right orientation for inserting into the G26.
Anti-gunners seem to believe that if we just pass enough laws, we can have utopia. Unfortunately, utopia is NOT one of our choices.
Bullets facing forward. As mentioned, because it's properly oriented for quicker pistol reloads.
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My favorite is still one senior agent in my organization who carries his one facing forward, one facing backward (in a double mag pouch). I admit is makes for a very elegant design statement, as the angled floor plates mirror each other and make a pretty "peaked roof" motiff, but as a practical consideration the man is a buffoon. The worst of all possible worlds.
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