School Zones

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    School Zones

    Are we expected to pick up our children 1000ft from the building? If we pick up our kids from school without getting out of the vehichle, do we really need to lock up in the glove box until we get down the street?

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    In Texas, we can carry in a school zone as long as we don't enter the school building. I believe the federal law states that unlicensed people must stay 1,000 feet away from a school zone (if you have a gun in your vehicle for example.) But if you have a CCW, you're allowed on school property like the parking lot, but not inside the school, not at school sporting events or any school sponsored event. I believe this is true in most states as well.
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    to confirm Indiana school buildings is no. School transportation is legal. School parking lot legal. Should you go inside gun must be securely locked in parked vehicle.

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    The sad part of this thread is that there seem to be so many "laws" on the books that defy common sense to their ultimate. Even this thread begs the need for a tape measure and an appreciation of whose parking lot is it and where does school property begin and end. I would bet that if you play this out across the country, there are idiot statutes and idiot politicians and idiot school administrators who will go overboard and just drive you nuts over their over-interpretation of laws and a lack of common sense.

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    The only correct answer is, it depends on your state laws. From what I was able to find on http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/washington.pdf as long as you are picking up or dropping off your good.

    (1) It is unlawful for a person to carry onto, or to possess on, public or private elementary or secondary school premises, school-provided transportation, or areas of facilities while being used exclusively by public or private schools" (3) Subsection (1) of this section does not apply to: ... (e) Any person in possession of a pistol who has been issued a license under RCW 9.41.070, or is exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060, while picking up or dropping off a student;

    IANAL nor am I versed in the laws of WA. So take my opinion for what it is worth.
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    If you have a carry license / permit you are ONLY restricted by your State Laws.

    http://www.gunlaws.com/Gun_Free_School_Zones_Act.pdf (Federal Law )


    (2)(A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects
    interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.

    (B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearmó

    (i) on private property not part of school grounds;

    (ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision
    of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law
    enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license...

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    It varies from state to state. In Wisconsin you need a CC permit to be within 1,000 feet of any school building. Public or private, the law makes no distinction.

    Private property is exempt from the rule, but streets are public property. Which is something important to remember in Wisconsin. Until last weekend, I and so many others, were forced to break the law in Wisconsin because we cannot access our property without coming into the excessive GFSZ.

    Most hunters that go north or south on US Highway 53 here in Wisconsin also violate the GFSZ. The new school for Gordon and Solon Springs was built within 1,000 feet of both lanes of the highway. There are so many schools in the state, it's impossible in many cities, to not violate the GFSZ accidently. It's a stupid law that needs to be repealed.

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    Doesn't matter in Alabama, long as you have your permt there are no school restrictions at all.
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    Short answer... as long as you have a valid WA CPL, you do not have to disarm as long as you are picking up/dropping off. You can't go into the buildings, but the grounds are fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1truth View Post
    Are we expected to pick up our children 1000ft from the building? If we pick up our kids from school without getting out of the vehichle, do we really need to lock up in the glove box until we get down the street?

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    Same in PA. Your allowed on the Grounds but not in the school if you have a Concealed Carry License.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1truth View Post
    Are we expected to pick up our children 1000ft from the building? If we pick up our kids from school without getting out of the vehichle, do we really need to lock up in the glove box until we get down the street?
    What does your state law say about it? In VA we can pull into the driveway/traffic circle to pick-up & drop-off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGun4169 View Post
    Same in PA. Your allowed on the Grounds but not in the school if you have a Concealed Carry License.
    The above is not true, but I very much wish it was. The pertinent section below is copied from handgunlaw.us http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/pennsylvania.pdf

    (b) Offense defined.--A person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree if he possesses a weapon in the
    buildings of, on the grounds of, or in any conveyance providing transportation to or from any elementary or
    secondary publicly-funded educational institution
    , any elementary or secondary private school licensed by
    the Department of Education or any elementary or secondary parochial school.
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    Not a concern here in FL.
    One can pick up/drop off students while armed, just don't go into the building or store a firearm in the car...if you go inside a school building.
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