Yep.Sixto, thanks for saving the thread lol.
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Yep.Sixto, thanks for saving the thread lol.
"He went on two legs, wore clothes and was a human being, but nevertheless he was in reality a wolf of the Steppes. He had learned a good deal . . . and was a fairly clever fellow. What he had not learned, however, was this: to find contentment in himself and his own life. The cause of this apparently was that at the bottom of his heart he knew all the time (or thought he knew) that he was in reality not a man, but a wolf of the Steppes."
Here in Tn, if I need to leave my gun in the car momentarily, I unload and lock it in the console or glove box. I pocket the magazine and keep my two spare magazines on me (weak side dual mag pouch).
Reasoning: Should some methhead steal or break into my car, better he has only my firearm with no mag/no ammo and not a fully loaded firearm.
If someone wants to complain should they see my mag pouch? Let them. Not much of a chance of danger from me throwing a bullet at them ;)
Being new to concealed carry (just got my Wisconsin License) I ordered a gun lock box with cable from Amazon.
Amazon.com: GunVault NV200 NanoVault with Key Lock, Fits Full Size 1911 Style Pistols: Home Improvement
I drive a truck so under or behind the seat is my only option. My glove box does not lock and I have no console.
Now here is a question I am curious about. Are the "contract" post offices federal property? By contract I mean the ones that have signs saying operated by XYZ corp under license of the postal service and the employees are wearing street clothes. The one I am thinking of also has common plaza parking shared with other stores.
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livewire9880, thank you for the clarification. I agree that the best approach is, when it doubt, don't bring it. or don't go.
On the subject of "leaving my gun where??", I had a similar situation this last weekend. I mention it because the situation does highlight the sort of things that we encounter. On Saturday, I picked my wife up from where she was working at a holiday market. On the way home she decided she wanted to stop at an ABC store for her choice of poison. The plan was that since I was carrying that she would go in and I would wait outside as the location is posted with gun-buster signs. There was a small crowd outside going in and out of the store that made her uncomfortable. They didn't look like bangers, but they didn't look like particular high caliber either, they were customers, but there were a fair number socializing outside the door, She didn't want to go in by herself. At the same time, I didn't want to noticeably "disarm", least one of them notice and decide that it is an opportunity to grab a brick and then grab a free gun. The choices: go home without (and listen to my wife), go to another store across town and hope for a different customer base (20 miles, 30 minutes with no guarantees), disarm and take the risks associated with that, or go in anyway and on the unlikely event that I am called out, leave.
Stick it in your glove box and do your thing, lock your doors.
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As a CWFL licensee you can not have a firearm, even locked in your car, in the post office parking lot or building. The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the conviction of a man who had a handgun in his car in a USPS parking lot. They reasoned that all USPS property is a "sensitive place." under Heller.
There is another federal lawsuit challenging the ban. That case was originally dismissed but has now been amended and allowed to proceed. Read the links below for a good education on the topic.
Read Here: No Lawyers - Only Guns and Money: Bonidy v. USPS: Postal Service Moves To Dismiss
Then here: No Lawyers - Only Guns and Money: Challenge To USPS Ban On Firearms Dismissed
Then here: No Lawyers - Only Guns and Money: Bonidy v. USPS - Not Over Yet
Finally here: Colorado couple's lawsuit over post office gun ban is allowed to proceed - The Denver Post
One thing I have noticed, though it is somewhat anecdotal and based upon memory is that the signs in ABC stores changed recently. I am certain that they used to have a big red warning about bringing a firearm into the establishment being a felony, but I haven't see one of those in a while. Instead they all say something to the effect of: "Per NC G.S. 514-(whatever it is), no guns allowed, concealed or otherwise." If they really feel the need and see value in posting, I would be happy with a no illegal guns, which would be just as effective and not infringe on legal carry.
From what I can tell, mostly from a (N & S) Carolina based forum, the pro-carry movement is gaining momentum and is building support for pushing to incorporate the things that were stripped out. I would like to see the effectiveness of signs being negated and college campus carry, or at a minimum allow storage in a locked vehicle on a campus.
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