This is a discussion on Right totally violated within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by mr.stuart Another reason I live in the great country of Texas ...and Vermont, though I am sharing a border with those folks....
I'm getting the Impression that you left out a few details,
"Did the LEO's ask you if you would mind if they searched your vehicle?
I get the impression since you were uninformed enough to take a handgun into NY that you felt you had nothing to hide so your response is sure go ahead and look.They then find a round of ammunition,at that point they now have enough Probable Cause to search your entire vehicle,whether you agree or not
Ignorance of the law is no excuse,I'm not sure if Georgia requires a class to get your carry permit,but this would be a good reason to take one with the Instructors pointing out that the Permit is good in your State but is not honored in every other State,and you need to research where you can and cannot have a firearm.
"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
--Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .
First a lady visiting the Ground Zero site, than a marine in NYC, now this guy Who's next???????
Life is hard. It's even harder when you don't know where the easy victim selection zones are.
Liberty, Property, or Death - Jonathan Gardner's powder horn inscription 1776
Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito.
("Do not give in to evil but proceed ever more boldly against it.")
-Virgil, Aeneid, vi, 95
Boycott New York ,,,,, until they change their stupid
carry laws ,,,,, any one who has a CWP needs to STAY OUT
OF NEW YORK STATE,,,, I love NYC but I have given up
on them ,,,,, I am not going there and spend money,,,, they
are to expensive anyway. Should start a NATIONWIDE
BOYCOTT by ALL CWP owners of NEW YORK STATE PERIOD.
Tough post to read and follow. I'm confused by the conflicting information. What exactly happened?
Judging by the facts of your post, your rights were not violated. You made a couple of mistakes. 1) Took a firearm into a state that does not observe the 2nd Amendment, 2) Allowed a search of your car, 3) did not know the law of the state into which you took your firearm. While the laws of NY are certainly draconian, they are the laws of NY. You are pretty much to blame on this one.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"
Thanks guys for your opinion...i forgot gun was in trunk...so in a rush with things on my mind, with this misdemeanor in the 4th (non violent charge) will this hurt me to carry in ga.
Yeah it may have been stupid...but hey im far from perfect...so you'll that name call, please keep your rocks in your pocket... What i did i have to face the music..no jail time and that just it, if i may not get to hold a firearm again...i'm fine with that. You guys be safe and god bless.
And just why were the police searching your car?... You say that you have Georgia plates? I'm thinking there are some parts to the story being left out. Unless it was on a bridge or at a tunnel I dont see them searching a tourists car. I'd like to know where and what time this happened. At this point I just have to go Hmmmm !
Unfortunately, lots of states have no training requirement and lots of others don't get into the reciprocity stuff as part of the course. Unwitting, ignorant, and naive about all the variations on state law may have nothing whatsoever to do with the person's overall level of competence and safe handling ability. Plenty of licensed gun-toters never
set an eye on this site or anything else educational after they get their permit. That's just the way it is. And if anyone dares
suggest more mandated training, well--- you know what half our participants will start to chant.
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