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    I feel horrible

    So, i work as sercurity for an organization, and a building is posted no weapons. I just caught a glimpse of his. Weapon as he went to "badge in" to the building. I had to ask that person to remove the weapon from the building. To deny someone their right, feels horrible. Scary thing is i am an unarmed security officer, what if he didnt wanna comply? I am not carrying, all i know is that he did and i am glad. But i just cant believe that i had to enforce a rule on making someone leave because of a right that both them and i support...
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    Unarmed Security? Hope you've at least invested in Body Armor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Unarmed Security? Hope you've at least invested in Body Armor.
    I should do that, but its the stupid organization i work for either that or drop the money and get my armed license and work some place else.
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    You did what you were hired to do. You protected the rights of the people who hired you. Its that simple.

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    I can't imagine your pain, but it's your job. Ever check to see if you could carry a knife, peper spray, taser, a brick or ANYTHING just to protect yourself? Some tasers are disguised as cell phones and they are pretty darn close to looking like the real deal flip or smart phone.
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    Unarmed security in free kill zones provides the thinnest illusion of security to those too stupid to know better.
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    Yup Come with the job. 30 years ago I was a armed security gaurd 3rd shift, I slept at least 6 of 8 hrs ; ) PS Keep up the great job & hit the deck if lead is sent your way.
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    "...what if he didnt wanna comply?"

    Let him in and say, "Hey, boss, I've got a little problem here."
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    Although I don't 100% believe in "do anything because it is your job," in this instance you did the correct thing.

    You should give yourself a great deal of credit for a combination of personal courage and integrity. Personal courage for
    taking a job in which you will (without question) encounter armed people as an unarmed guard. Integrity for doing what your
    company hired you to do, and doing it even though it involves some real risk. Others would no doubt look the other way just
    to protect themselves from the very rare unfortunate outcome.

    I would not want your job, but that doesn't mean you should not want your job. A man has to do what a man has to do to make a living. As long as it is legal and being done ethically, you can hold your head high. You can indeed hold your head high.
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    I understand your situation completely and I know how scarce jobs are these days. It sounds as if you acted in a professional manner and achieved the desired outcome. You did your job regardless of personal issues. That is what professionals do.

    We gun owners are the good guys and as such, respect the law and private property rights. Your employer has decided, however foolishly, that he wishes to have a no gun policy which is his right. I've been there, done that. Shortly after I retired from the PD, I worked as an unarmed security officer, where the business owners have a no gun policy. The ironic part is, the company is a major player in the firearms manufacturing industry. If I told you, you would recognize the name immediately. Daily, employees and customers brought in firearms that I had to take possession of, log-in and personally store them, or deliver to the appropriate facility in the plant. I didn't stay in that job long. It wasn't the "dream" job I had hoped it would be. Reality sometimes sux.

    I got an offer to work as an executive protection officer, a "civilian" contractor, for a high profile elected official, where I've been issued a firearm and ammo. (They won't let me carry my own.) Five + years and I'm still there, but switched to part-time six months ago. This isn't a dream job either, but at least I'm well armed and better paid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    "...what if he didnt wanna comply?"

    Let him in and say, "Hey, boss, I've got a little problem here."
    We have a form 175-A for when that happens. Pick it up at the HR office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer View Post
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    We gun owners are the good guys and as such, respect the law and private property rights. [/COLOR]
    With the amount of individuals in at least three different threads now replying with CANT (Carry Always Never Tell) and screw them it is my right to protect myself so I will carry everywhere regardless of the private property owners rights or I ignore the signs when i see them, I sir would have to say that a good many legal concealed carry holders are definitely and blatantly disrespecting the letter of the law and the rights of private property owners.

    Do I agree with the fact that a business who obviously has no security can tell me I cant carry for my own, No. Will I carry in those posted businesses, No for the simple reason that it is the law in my state that if it is posted I am unable to carry there and I wouldn't want to be the criminal so many of us carry to protect ourselves from.
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    If you like living in a house and eating, you have to do what your employer says!
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    I did the same type of job at a federal courthouse building (contracted entrance security). The difference was we were armed. My advice is if you stay in private security spend the money on an armed license. With the armed certification you will be more valuable to the company and it will open up other options for you. You may also consider adding a Private Investigator/Detective license. If you are active in the investigations area that is where you can make some real money.

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    You did right. It is the way it is. Hu have job and I hope you like ot, as it makes it much more enjoyable. That being said you did what you were hired to do so hold your head high. Fight the rules on personal time, when i shouldn't cost you your job to try for a policy change.
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