What would you do?

What would you do?

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    What would you do?

    I go to Virginia Commonwealth University. I am about to get my CHP but I have a little dilemma. Guns are not allowed at VCU under state law. I don't live on campus but I'm there or in the area enough that their are many times I want be able to carry. Mind you that Richmond was recently ranked the 5th most dangerous city in the country and what makes bigger targets than "rich" oblivious college kids at a city campus with no walls or gates...Would you carry your gun anyways or would you go with out?

    p.s. I spoke with a VCU police officer and he said that one can not be charged with possesing a gun on VCU property, just asked/told to leave.


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    If you keep the weapon concealed at all times, unless you have to pass through a metal detector, who would ever know. It you got into a situation where you had to handle the weapon, it would be better to be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6.

    I carried in TN long before the permit became available. There was a $50 fine if you were caught and they would confiscate the weapon. I was never even close to being caught.

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    I would check state law , but if legal, carry as much as possible.
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    we follow the law that is what makes us better than the bad guys
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    If it is not in the US Constitution then the Federal Government should not be doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Jimmy View Post
    we follow the law that is what makes us better than the bad guys

    We follow the law and that's what gives the BG's the advantage.

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    If you do decide to carry there, make it something small any very easy to conceal. A Kel Tec P3AT or NAA Guardian ect. would fill the bill nicely. Either pocket carry, or IWB with a good holster would be the order of the day.. But before you do carry, (if you do) get as much info as possible as to the +'s and -'s. Only you can make the final decision!!

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    With the CHP you can carry in Virginia legally except bars and federal building. On campus will be a choice your going to have to make. I work at the Richmond Air port and just today in Richmond we had an escape convict over power his deputy escort and shot and killed him with the deputy's weapon. Then he shot a killed a hospital security guard and fled. The convict was seen headed for VCU so all the school was shut down and the students where tolled to stay at home or in there dorm rooms. I don't know if they found the guy get but I'll tell you this.
    I always carry in Richmond,no exceptions.
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    It irks me that we as law-abiding citizens have to get permission from the government to carry. I think that my ability to defend myself and my family is God given and not something that should be regulated by the state.

    However, (always a but isn't there?) as CraigJS said the previous post - If you are going to carry illegally you really need to understand the legal repercussions of your actions.
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    It's all down to legality - and if on checking you are not law-breaking then the decision to carry will be yours - and with due consideration to any backlash you may get if discovered.

    In other words - a calculated and measured decision based on all facts available.
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    Sounds like the same as my situation. Where I work doesn't allow firearms, but legally Kentucky says I can carry there. They can fire me if I'm ever caught, but if I'm in a situation where I need it, I'd much rather be fired than die.

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    Sounds like the same thing here in Missouri, "Not" against the law but if found out your carrying they can ask you to leave. Big deal, just leave and all is well.

    In your situation the school will probably kick you out, I don't know?

    But, if that is correct and you can carry then, concealed is concealed! Tell "NO" one and I mean "NO" one that you carry. Keep your firearm concealed very well, like in a Smart Carry/Thunderwear rig, you will get a lot of dates this way as well.

    It's up to you, but if it was me and no law was stopping me from carrying just a sign that means nothing other than they can ask me to leave if I am found out (I will never be found out by the way) then I carry period.

    Here is the smart carry by the way and also the thunderwear websites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimo View Post
    With the CHP you can carry in Virginia legally except bars and federal building. On campus will be a choice your going to have to make. I work at the Richmond Air port and just today in Richmond we had an escape convict over power his deputy escort and shot and killed him with the deputy's weapon. Then he shot a killed a hospital security guard and fled. The convict was seen headed for VCU so all the school was shut down and the students where tolled to stay at home or in there dorm rooms. I don't know if they found the guy get but I'll tell you this.
    I always carry in Richmond,no exceptions.
    According to AP this happened in Blacksburg, Va. which is located in Montgomery County in SW Va., approximately 215 southwest of Richmond. The college according to AP reports was VA Tech. Is the AP report incorrect?
    Here is a link to the story: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...08-21-19-38-12
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    So which laws can I ignore and still be a good guy??
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    If it is not in the US Constitution then the Federal Government should not be doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Jimmy View Post
    So which laws can I ignore and still be a good guy??
    Traffic laws, consensual sex laws (sodomy, oral, etc...), immigration laws and boating laws.
    Whatever doesn't kill you postpones the inevitable.

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    I was good friends with Taylor Behl (kidnapped a year ago from VCU). Her death was one of the reasons I began to carry consistantly. I've been to that campus regularly, as well. It seems "nice" but some of the surrounding areas aren't as friendly. I'm sure you know what I mean when I say that you can "walk a block and be in trouble."

    My point of view may be a bit skewed, but I think I would carry anywhere I possibly could. If anyone gives you flack, tell them that if you had been there, Taylor would still be alive. That should strike a sensitive spot with anyone who has a problem. I do know that the campus tends to be highly liberal, so I appluad you for your efforts in that environment. Please, PLEASE, keep carrying there. I still have friends at that campus. It would, at the least, put my mind at ease a little bit more. It won't bring back my friend but you MIGHT be able to prevent the same thing from happening again. And that alone is enough, man.

    Forgive me, I'm just a little bitter about VCU campus police and their ability to handle anything.
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