I don't want anything other than quality and reliability to have any consideration in your answer.
In other words I don't care how well you or I shoot ant of these guns just want your opinion is on quality and reliability.
Glock or sig sauer which is better as far as quality and reliability for a carry gun?
I know it is a pretty general ? but try not to read to much into it. Thanks
Just in case any one wants to know why I ask.
My son will be getting his permit soon and is working with a couple weapons glock/sig and is having a hard time deciding.
I have told him they are both equal so now I just all of your opinions.
If someone else is buying, I would take the Sig. If I am buying, I would take the Glock. Both are great weapons, but in addition to the specs you are using, I add value per $. I just feel like I get more value for my $ with Glock. However, you won't go wrong with either one.
If all you are looking for is something that goes "BANG" when you pull the trigger, then a Glock is the gun for you. Functional to the extreme, sometimes when it's unintended...check the unintentional discharge incidents. Unforgiving little beast, it is.
If you want something more..craftsmanship in a medium other than plastic for example, then a Sig might appeal to you.
I don't think you can go wrong with either for a defensive firearm. I've owned Sigs and Glocks, but I carry a Sig nearly everyday and don't currently own a Glock. Go with whichever you shoot better, both will serve you well.
I own several examples of both. While the glock will not go off unless you pull the trigger, it is still what I would call "less forgiving" than a Sig. For that reason I would recommend a Sig over a Glock as a first pistol. And if you want value and quality in a DA/SA auto I would definitely consider the CZ PCR.
I much prefer striker fired pistols. So Glock is what I suggest. I like to shoot a pistol with the same consistent trigger pull, rather that a long 1st pull followed by very short single action ones. By the way you should include the M&P in your list also. It is very reliable.
Bore axis is lower on the Glock, so it handles recoil better. Better ergonomics in general also. You might be able to get an M&P and a Glock for the price of one Sig.
This is what I was thinking^ M&P is a better fit for most new shooters that I've come across. And they are just as reliable as Glock or Sig.
Reading through this I vote what fits his hand best. If he can manipulate the gun effective then it really doesn't matter. But I've got small hands and a larger Sig just won't work for me. I also have shot many Glocks, the block like grip and grip angle always have me shooting at the floor. (another common complaint i get with people shooting Glocks) it is how much time and training you want to put into learning your gun.
Thats why I bought an M&P, i could manipulate the gun well, and shoot accurately with it. It was also very simple to learn and not alot of switches and buttons like i know the Sig has. Thats why I think a striker fire gun is best for beginners.
It probably really doesn't matter it terms or quality and dependability. I've never owned a Sig, but I've shot a few. Realistically, the reliability between the two will be the same. You're a winner no matter which one you choose.
Of the two I voted Sig, but if your son is torn between these two and is willing to pay the price for a Sig, I'd suggest a third option.
H&K, either the P30, P2000, or USP series, depending on preference. I traded a Sig 229 for a H&K P2000 and haven't looked back. To me it's got all the reliability and durability you'll find in a Glock, but with superior build quality up there with Sig (I'd say better than Sig these days with what I've seen lately, but that's for another post). The H&K will be lighter than the Sig, but keeps its hammer fired characteristics. And you can opt for the light LEM trigger variant which gives the same consistent, light trigger pull every time. One last thing that drew me to H&K is the fully ambi control system. Makes for truly unbiased one-handed manipulations, which come in nicely for training/classes as well as if you have southpaws and righties using the same gun (ex: double duty as CCW and nightstand gun).
I have gone through a LOT of pistols... Looking for the "one" for me. I just dumped a Glock 23 & 27, both gen 4. I am sure they are fine weapons with an outstanding track record. However, for ME, they did not fit. I could not shoot em for anything. I tried the different backstraps and even a Hogue grip... They just didn't fit me. So... I picked up a SIG 2022 9MM with SIG night sights. I knocked out the center of a zombie target at 10 yards. It fit my hand so well. I liked it so much, I just picked up a 229 and am ordering a 226. So... I vote SIG.
I vote sig, have a new german 226 with the milled nitron slide, and its a shooter.. also have a e2 .40 that is my carry when it comes to wearing a full size or as a gun when driving any long distance.. being that im currently in a small town and spend much of my time at school (college student; commuting) i find myself without a gun when im there. but when not on campus i always have my kahr PM40... i like it because i can throw it in my pocket and go, without the added weight, though a substantial decrease in capacity, i still prefer this to say a snubby
if i were back in a bigger area such as where my family lives, then the sig is on me as is the Kahr
Google Glock & Sig. Read the posts. My State Police Agency went G17>accidental shootings/fail to stops>Sig P220 45s>better scores/no accidental shootings>G22s-political deal with top admin>lower scores/less Agt involvment in shooting sports/duty related competition. Best instructors carried 1911s! Local SWAT did too. Glocks always go BANG-just sometimes when you don't want them to!
I hope the replies and votes continue It's been helpful and I am even a little surprised.
But then I have always thought both gun were excellent weapons.
But you know when a newer shooter like my son goes to a range and see's people there that have problems with these weapons it does get a little confusing.
I was a trainer for many yrs and trained cops that didn't have confidence after several yrs in the gun they depended on.
My original vote for Sig over Glock stands as well as my preference for H&K especially the P2000 and HK45c. I will defend Glock over one poster who indicated that in police trials Glocks did not shoot as well as Sigs. This may very well be true for police accuracy but you must keep in mind that many agencies especially NY require that awful 13 lb trigger which would make it harder for anyone to shoot.
Good point and I agree. And also I have trained a lot of cops and there is a lot of cops that don't even like guns.
So the only time they train or shoot is when it's mandated.
Since you have both, give him a case of ammo and both guns and let HIM choose.
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