Proposed Ohio Law - concealed compartments in your vehicle

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    Laws like that scare me.
    Some over zealous LEO would make an issue out of a glove box or a factory installed storage area between the seat under the center arm rest.

    "But your Honor it was a concealed space as it was covered by the arm rest and I couldn't see in it."

    Same arguement that is made for a concealed weapon. " I thought I seen an outline of a handgun grip that was covered by his shirt."
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    "A draft of the law describes a hidden compartment as a “space, box, or other closed container” that is added, modified or attached to an existing vehicle."

    That would make a handgun (or any sort of) lockbox with security cable a violation of law. I don't see this as enforceable or constitutional. Far too vague.
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    Although I wouldn't want to be the test case, I don't think it would make it through the courts if fought. Just from what the article says, technically a safe installed in your vehicle would be in violation of the law.
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    We have got to get this guy out of our state. Hey Kasich, please step down and leave Ohio. We do not want you here anymore. What a great way to make everyone a "criminal". What next, outlawing pants pockets?

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    What the H.E. Double Hockey Sticks is one supposed to do when one buys a used vehicle, and it was rigged with a "secret compartment" by the previous owner, for whatever reason, and now you are the owner of said vehicle and get popped??

    I've always been leery of who and where I buy my vehicles from.
    What if the previous owner did drugs/smoked pot or whatever, I buy the vehicle, and me or a family member is driving the vehicle, gets pulled over and something illegal is found?
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    Looks like another case of some idiot lawmaker trying to come up with a "law" to "fix" a non-problem--actually to come up with a law to get publicity from the media and make people believer they are going to "fix" a problem!

    Just another useless law that hasn't been well thought out that isn't going to do anything constructive, yet could lead to numerous arrests of innocent people leading to countless court cases and considerable expense on the part of tax payers and innocent people before it finally gets thrown out as unconstitutional!

    There are already enough "laws" to stop drug dealers--we don't need another useless one that won't actually do anything constructive to stop drug trafficing!
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    Isn't it already illegal to smuggle drugs through Ohio?
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    Kasich is a windbag moron. He angered law enforcement after being stopped for failing to yield to an emergency vehicle and then calling the Trooper an idiot on camera. I suspect he is now trying to suck up to the patrol for running his suck on camera.

    He also tried to bust up unions collective bargaining rights which angered public safety professionals, so anything he does to "further public safety causes" makes me suspicious. He is just stroking the patrol to control damage.
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    I agree that this is probably not Constitutional under Ohio's constitution. My rep and senator are going to hear from me on this one. Let's stop this in its tracks.

    I have no problem with an added penalty if you are found running drugs and using a special compartment, but mere possession of a hiding place should not be a crime. Too many ways to catch up law-abiding people for committing no real crime.
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    Every vehicle that I have every owned has a secret compartment or three in it. Every single one. Some are accessible and used for weapons, where legal, others I have discovered as I was running wires, etc. NO, NOT to operate the hidden tail lights!! ;) The fact someone even got this far with this lame brained idea shows they are ignorant and just looking for publicity.

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    "Sir, do you know why I pulled you over?"

    "Well, Officer, uhhhmmm..... you want to check out my secret places?"

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    OK, y'all, here is what I plan to send to my OH rep and senator later today. Please feel free to make any comments on it and suggest changes to improve it. If you like it as is, feel free to copy it and send it to your rep and senator.


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    From an article in the Columbus Post Dispatch, it has come to my attention that Governor Kasich is promoting legislation regarding special compartments in vehicles and he wants to make them illegal regardless of why they exist or how they are used. The article is linked here http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...rs-busted.html

    According to the article, “legislation [is] to be introduced by Sen. Jim Hughes, R-Columbus, that would make it a fourth-degree felony to own a vehicle that has special hidden compartments – whether or not they are found to hold drugs.” Further, “A draft of the law describes a hidden compartment as a ‘“space, box, or other closed container”’ that is added, modified or attached to an existing vehicle.”

    There are many legal uses for such compartments, some of which actually serve the public good. For instance, if a holder of a Concealed Handgun License (CHL) is legally carrying a weapon and needs to go into a place that is off limits, e.g., a post office, police station, church, etc., (s)he has to remove his/her weapon prior to entering the facility. Many CHL holders have a small safe in their car that is attached either by a cable, bolts or welding it in. These compartments would appear to be illegal under the proposed law. If CHL holders cannot use such compartments, they must leave their guns in the relatively unsecure glove box or console box that came with the car. This will result in the criminal element obtaining more guns than if small safes are used.

    As I understand it, there is already a plethora of laws in Ohio against trafficking in drugs and even some that target specific hardware used in the process. Let’s use these laws to prosecute those who participate in this criminal activity. If the Legislature wants to put an additional law on the books to outlaw special compartments, target it to a demonstrated criminal use, not the mere existence of the compartment. To criminalize the compartment itself, without regard to how it is used is both likely unconstitutional and short-sighted. All this will succeed in doing is criminalizing citizens who are not committing any meaningful criminal activity and, among other things, making firearms more available to the criminal element.
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    Here is the text of the proposed bill. Its intent statement is not too objectionable, but the way it is written does not conform to the intent section and appears to criminalize owning or operating a vehicle with a special compartment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye .45 View Post
    Isn't it already illegal to smuggle drugs through Ohio?
    Only if you get caught
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