Self Defense Findings from NRA's "Armed Citizen" Column

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    Lightbulb Self Defense Findings from NRA's "Armed Citizen" Column

    Fascinating statistics derived from civilian-only self-defense shootings (no on-duty or off-duty police in the statistics). Fascinating observations on frequency of reloads, number of rounds fired, distances, frequency of multiple attackers, etc. Quite different numbers from those I learned in self-defense classes taught by a retired police instructor.

    The Thinking Gunfighter: Self Defense Findings
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    Seems like a really small sample. Especially for a 5 year study. Thanks for sharing.
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    While this is a small study, it does provide valuable information.

    I am surprised at the very low number of self-defense reloads. Due to the low number of events which are included in the study, this does cause me to re-think my carry of 2 additional magazines. I am not yet ready to jettison my reloads but it does give me pause.

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    Good info, and pretty much what I would have guessed or expected.

    I'm still not taking my first shot with a 22 lr if I have a choice.
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    Eh. Maybe he should actually post the #'s so that doubters like me will believe even a fraction of what he wrote.

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    Interesting, but not really a revelation either.

    A 5 shooter j-frame in the pocket will do nicely
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    I would assume this is a random sampling, which typically yields more reliable results.

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    Its a sample of reported incidences that were reported to the NRAs armed citizen. 482 over 5 years. I will guarantee that there are a lot more defensive uses with firearms in the U.S. over the course of 5 years than 482.
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    Despite these stats, I'm not about to get rid of my extra mag. Besides, at the very least, you could have a malfunction, requiring a reload.
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    When the sharks would circle me in the waters off Key West, I used a 44 mag power point on the tip of my spear gun. If they circle me on the street, the number of rounds fired will skew this report upwards. Some counties haven't reported in yet, the ones in shoot-shovel-and shut up flyover country.
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    It's definitely a skewed sample. These are only those reported to one source. Still, it's not a bad analysis of the available data.

    I'd like to see a larger, more variable population study.

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    There are other well documented studies show that only in the most rarest of engagements is more than two shots fired. Additional other studies that focus on analyzing data from documented police reports corroborate that the difference between small and large caliber is not as significant as legend and internet experts insist, in terms of dispatching or debilitating the aggressor. Forums exist to regurgitate mantra. I am not suggesting a .45 is a bad thing to have. However, well documented real life cases demonstrate that the notion of need for multiple clips and big calibers is not as cut and dried as it seems. Way more often than not, two shots and it is over. Either through flight, capture, injury, or fatality.

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    Interesting article, but I'm not going to bet my life on statistics.
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    This is fascinating to me! The conclusions are very much what I would have suspected based not only on the "Armed Citizen," which I have read for a lot more than five years, but every shooting incident I have seen reported in the media. I will continue to feel well armed when carrying my S&W 637 or Kahr P9.
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    If you would like a self defense study about armed citizens you may wish to spend the $10.00 for a good read. Here is the link: Tough Targets: When Criminals Face Armed Resistance from Citizens | Cato Institute Store

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