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    Where do they come up with this stuff?

    I ran across an article promoting anti-gun propaganda in Wisconsin: Ask businesses to keep your family safe from firearms violence by banning guns | Uppity Wisconsin

    A couple of the 'facts' posted are:

    ►By a huge 3 to 1 margin, state residents say they will feel less safe, not safer, in public places that allow guns.

    ►Guns in public places put us all at risk. Workers at businesses that allow guns are 5 to 7 times more likely to be murdered.

    ►Nationwide, 80% of businesses prohibit guns on the premises.
    I can understand and respect differing view points, but it irritates me to no end when they use spin & falsehoods to try to justify a position.

    About all I can say is Wow!

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    Send them a tube of Preparation-H - their rear end must really hurt after pulling all that stuff out.
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    Ha! I can think of just a handful of businesses in my area that post. Matter of fact, I was OC'ing to pick up pizza today and got in a conversation with the owners. Both of them were carrying. Someone was stabbed to death in the parking lot next to them last year.
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    I would love a link to these "facts" they are claiming to be true.
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    Nationwide, 80% of businesses prohibit guns on the premises.
    If anything I would guess they'd be closer if they said 20% do not allow carrying. But then that would not meet their agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    If anything I would guess they'd be closer if they said 20% do not allow carrying. But then that would not meet their agenda.
    Honestly, in my city I've only seen one sign. And that was on the courthouse/jail
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    Quote Originally Posted by MleeC View Post
    I ran across an article promoting anti-gun propaganda in Wisconsin: Ask businesses to keep your family safe from firearms violence by banning guns | Uppity Wisconsin

    I can understand and respect differing view points, but it irritates me to no end when they use spin & falsehoods to try to justify a position.

    About all I can say is Wow!
    Politicians do it all the time.
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    I think the problem is you guys are taking a blog post from a site that uses the word "uppity" in it's title way too seriously. Bloggers love to spew random facts when they're blogging, some people take the time to put together good blogs, but most have many facts that are either made up or "I thought I read this somewhere so it's probably the right fact."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaySkiBum View Post
    I think the problem is you guys are taking a blog post from a site that uses the word "uppity" in it's title way too seriously. Bloggers love to spew random facts when they're blogging, some people take the time to put together good blogs, but most have many facts that are either made up or "I thought I read this somewhere so it's probably the right fact."
    We know, just think it's funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burns View Post
    We know, just think it's funny.


    My sarcasm does not translate well over the interwebs.

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    76.4% of all statistics are made up on the spot.


    Quote Originally Posted by MleeC View Post
    I ran across an article promoting anti-gun propaganda in Wisconsin: Ask businesses to keep your family safe from firearms violence by banning guns | Uppity Wisconsin

    A couple of the 'facts' posted are:



    I can understand and respect differing view points, but it irritates me to no end when they use spin & falsehoods to try to justify a position.

    About all I can say is Wow!
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    the fact is Anti-Gunners never have factual data on gun permit holders..They always have a blanket statement of BAN GUNS
    which unto itself is a stupid request asking GOVT to come and confiscate everyone gun and have a gun free society,an impossibility -

    They also want free birth control and food stamps for every poor folk in america,etc etc....
    But the facts and data prove permit holders are safer and more law abiding than non gun owners,,,,,,,,,,BAM......Bet yall did not know that
    but its a fact...Gun permit holders are involved in crimes less than 1% in total and thats not gun crime,thats crime in general -
    We have less speeding tickets,less theft and less breaking the laws than your average Joe who does not have a gun permit.......
    We are do gooders!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burns View Post
    I would love a link to these "facts" they are claiming to be true.

    ^^^^^^We won't find one^^^

    Now will we??



    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    If anything I would guess they'd be closer if they said 20% do not allow carrying. But then that would not meet their agenda.




    ^^^^^^YEP^^^^^^


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    Figures lie, and liars figure...

    Don't waste any valuable time trying to sort it all out.
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    ►By a huge 3 to 1 margin, state residents say they will feel less safe, not safer, in public places that allow guns.

    As opposed to the margin of elected representatives that voted FOR the law.

    ►Guns in public places put us all at risk. Workers at businesses that allow guns are 5 to 7 times more likely to be murdered.

    Does this include drug dealers and the military?

    ►Nationwide, 80% of businesses prohibit guns on the premises.

    Be VERY suspicious of any "statistic" that ends in a zero.
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