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    Hello all I have a question about carry in Texas, my buddy and I are licensed and were carrying into a Big R store and on the door a sign, out of copy paper stated that "all persons entering store must proceed to service desk where firearm will be checked and you will be escorted through store"! I thought that they could choose not post a sign thus allowing carry...or a post a sign (correct signage as per law) restricting carry. Do they have a right to make me unholster my weapon in front of the public and do whatever they do to "check" it, then escort me around the store? The laws state that sign must have 1" letters contrasting to the background and be in English and spanish posted at all entrances... If i ignore it because it doesn't meet requirements and walk in anyway then am I wrong?

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    Big R I assume is a store that buys and sells firearms, firearms brought in for trade will be checked to see they are unloaded and you will be escorted to the sales counter. Concealed is concealed unless it is posted and against the law.

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    Sorry, what I ment to say was "all persons in possession of a firearm" entering store..... didn't say anything about trading or that it was illegal to carry inside the store

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    I don't know about TX, but in OH, where I used to live, it just applied to firearms being traded or serviced...
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    There's a sign at the Cabela's store in Maine that says about the same thing. It is referring to people trading/selling firearms. There is nothing banning concealed weapons, which is what would be required according to Maine's law. (And it holds the force of law)
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    Gander Mountain and Bass Pro has the same basic signage, IF you are taking the gun for service or trading, or if you are buying accessories such as holsters and want to try before you buy. I don't think any store has enough employees to escort every one who wants to carry.
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    Like Others have said,Firearms being sold or traded,they don't want somebody walking thru the store with a loaded gun that "They were sure was unloaded",you would be surprised how many times I've seen people hand somebody a gun without clearing it and stating it's ok it's not loaded and watching the person clear the gun and watch a round of ammunition pop out,or at a Gun Show had a guy I know looked at a shotgun on a table,picked it up and unloaded 4 rounds out of the mag tube,the Vendor almost crapped his pants since he just purchased it from somebody at the Gun Show and the chamber was empty
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    ... If i ignore it because it doesn't meet requirements and walk in anyway then am I wrong?
    Well I suppose right or wrong they can ask you to leave and you will be obliged to do so. Personally if I just couldn't abide by the policies of the store I wouldn't shop there.

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    There is a Big R store here in Lewiston Idaho, ive been in it many times, but I conceal carry and ive never seen any no gun signs or any signs that restrict weapons at all.
    There is no service desk in this store either, just the check out counter.

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    Mostly for buy and sell purposes etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltrrtl View Post
    Hello all I have a question about carry in Texas, my buddy and I are licensed and were carrying into a Big R store and on the door a sign, out of copy paper stated that "all persons entering store must proceed to service desk where firearm will be checked and you will be escorted through store"! I thought that they could choose not post a sign thus allowing carry...or a post a sign (correct signage as per law) restricting carry. Do they have a right to make me unholster my weapon in front of the public and do whatever they do to "check" it, then escort me around the store? The laws state that sign must have 1" letters contrasting to the background and be in English and spanish posted at all entrances... If i ignore it because it doesn't meet requirements and walk in anyway then am I wrong?
    Since the OP ASKED about TEXAS , I suggest we only give answers based on TEXAS LAW.

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/texas.pdf

    according to the statute - signs MUST adhere to a specific size , shape, and wording.

    PENAL CODE**CHAPTER 30. BURGLARY AND CRIMINAL TRESPASS

    You do not need to obey a non-legal sign.

    If a store rep. KNOWS you are carrying they may ask you to check your gun or leave the store , and if you REFUSE - you could
    be accused of trespassing..

    If you are carrying concealed I doubt that anyone will notice.

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    Thanks for the posts, but I guess what I'm asking is can a store employee ask to check my weapon? The sign was a illegal sign and there aren't any "conditions" lined out in the permitting someone to carry or not in your business section of the texas code. Either I can carry or I can't carry in that particular business. Nothing in the texas code says I can carry "only if"... so...I go in the store carrying, and an employee finds out or notices that maybe I'm carrying, calls pd and then what? I think that there's nothing the store could do because they aren't legal in their sign or have the right to "check" my concealed firearm. Is this correct? I probably won't be going back in this store because of the B.S. and their prices aren't that good anyway....but just wondering

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    My local Gander Mtn. posted a similar sign and people complained and informed Mgmt. they would not be shopping there anymore, the signage was amended to state that CCW was welcome and the firearm check was only meant for guns that were coming in to be sold or for maintenance issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKsrule View Post
    Since the OP ASKED about TEXAS , I suggest we only give answers based on TEXAS LAW.

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/texas.pdf

    according to the statute - signs MUST adhere to a specific size , shape, and wording.

    PENAL CODE**CHAPTER 30. BURGLARY AND CRIMINAL TRESPASS

    You do not need to obey a non-legal sign.

    If a store rep. KNOWS you are carrying they may ask you to check your gun or leave the store , and if you REFUSE - you could
    be accused of trespassing..

    If you are carrying concealed I doubt that anyone will notice.

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    I agree. I don't think anyone would notice. And if anyone did, I just can't see them saying anything to you. But I personally wouldn't check with an employee for clarification - you may get different answers depending on who you ask. And you still have plausable deniability.
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    if it's not a 30.06 sign in the correct print I won't do nothing but shop and keep my mouth shut. no crime no foul
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