training? who needs training?

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    training? who needs training?

    I was surfing the tube and came across this--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjZY3WiO9s&feature=related
    Its about 10 minutes,but is good for all of us to reflect upon.I have always thought required training should be kicked up a notch for CPL qualification. I hope this link shows up here.
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    If you genuinely believe this video is indicative of "training", I strongly urge you get some real training. The entire exercise was designed to ensure failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    If you genuinely believe this video is indicative of "training", I strongly urge you get some real training. The entire exercise was designed to ensure failure.
    Absolutely, always stack the deck to insure the conclusion you want to prove.
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    Agree 100% you have a firearms instructor and a few individuals that have 30 minutes of training and the instructor knows exactly where his gun holder is...and ohh yeah how many tinmes did he practice drawing his weapon? once, twice, maybe three times..
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    The instructors probably did this piece in good faith emphasizing the need for training. ABC spins it... you'll die anyways so it's better to not fight and just comply. Nauseating IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheShadow View Post
    The instructors probably did this piece in good faith emphasizing the need for training. ABC spins it... you'll die anyways so it's better to not fight and just comply. Nauseating IMO
    Shoving him into that torqued thumbreak holster, 5-sizes-too-large shirt and oversized gloves blew my faith in anyone's good faith.
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    Train, Train, and TRAIN some more...Punching holes in paper, regardless of the number of hours, is NOT training. I too am impressed with anyone who can shoot "quarter" spreads at 3, 5, 7, 10, 12, 15 yards, BUT it is in NO WAY indicative of how they will perform under duress! This video makes me want to throw up. Active shooter, knows the scenario, knows WHO is armed, and focuses on them from the time they enter the door...Concealed carrier, none to little experience. Yea, THIS is a real demonstration of the need for training..NOT

    Everyone that carries a weapon, from John Q Citizen, to the Police Officer on the Beat, to the Military Person in the Streets of Conflicts, should seek out and get true training and build upon it daily. It may not guarantee your survival, but it dang sure will increase your chances of survival. The rest will depend on YOU if and when the time comes!!!! JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Shoving him into that torqued thumbreak holster, 5-sizes-too-large shirt and oversized gloves blew my faith in anyone's good faith.
    You have a good point there Mike
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    Yep what they said.
    "A first rate man with a third rate gun is far better than the other way around". The gun is a tool, you are the craftsman that makes it work. There are those who say "if I had to do it, I could" yet they never go out and train to do it. Don't let stupid be your mindset. Harryball 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgb View Post
    Absolutely, always stack the deck to insure the conclusion you want to prove.
    This. well said

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    I've seen this stupid thing off and on when conceal and carry was still up for debate in my state. Is it really any surprise that the news media is biased against citizens being armed? If they weren't they would report fair statistics instead of skewed ones. Things like this or reporting the number of "children" killed by guns every year and including all gang members under 18 who killed each other is just liberal media SOP.

    Anyone can say whatever they want. I know guns can SAVE lives. I had an incident a few years back where I came upon someone in my truck while open carrying in a rough neighborhood. She charged me with a pipe wrench I had sitting in my truck. The second she saw the gun on my hip it was like the hand of god halted her in her tracks she yelled oh (expletive) and ran the other direction. My gun never left my holster, and I'm positive it saved me from severe injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    If you genuinely believe this video is indicative of "training", I strongly urge you get some real training. The entire exercise was designed to ensure failure.
    LOL. take it easy man. I posted this becaus eit mostly reminded me of the folks tha took my CPL class with me. @ of them have never shot before that day.
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