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Carrying pepper spray

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    Anybody know if it is against the law to carry oc spray in San Antonio Texas . Asked around and nobody seems to know.I think it would be good to carry besides the gun. Thanx .....
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    Texas Penal Code Section 46.01 (14) deems it legal for an individual to possess a small, commercially-sold container of pepper spray for personal self-defense. This is generally interpreted to mean that a person is allowed to carry one of the small, "key-chain" type of pepper sprays which are marketed and sold for self-defense purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitan View Post
    Anybody know if it is against the law to carry oc spray in San Antonio Texas . Asked around and nobody seems to know.I think it would be good to carry besides the gun. Thanx .....
    It is a very good idea. It is a less-than-lethal alternative, much better than pulling a gun on someone who is unarmed, just remember if they are drunk or on pcp the success rate of it drops significantly, so be ready. Not sure on Texas laws about it, make sure you get the right concentration/uv or no uv dye/and in most states no tear gas.

    EDIT: Make sure you don't spray it into the wind, and get the one with the stream, not the fog or gel.
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    Burns why not the gel ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitan View Post
    Burns why not the gel ?
    The stream is more accurate and concentrated than the gel and more effective for outdoor use. It is also possible for them to wipe the gel off and actually throw it back at you.
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    I don't know about TX, but I carry the small bottle in my truck. Lot cheaper and eaiser to explain to Mr. Lawman if you choose to spray than to shoot (legal fees and all), unless the a-hole steps in front of an oncoming vehicle right after sprayed............... so be it.

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    I think Pepper-Spray is a good idea, but I also think it's important to understand that spraying a bad guy might well provoke him to attack you. I think any time you use it, you need to be prepared for that. If your draw is fast enough, maybe you can wait for the attack before you start your draw. In my case, I'm not that fast, and so I think my gun better already be out (in my strong hand), with my spray being delivered via my weak hand.

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    Perhaps someone here could explain this to me. Why is carrying pepper spray a good idea? I think a good judge is does this situation require me to kill the other party. If the answer is no, then there isn't warrant to use any violence. If the guy is unarmed, and you don't believe that he poses a significant threat you can leave. Pepper spray isn't an alternative to avoidance. You can't just go around spraying people in the face when you could just walk away.

    If you state you don't want trouble and try to retreat and they stop you and threaten your personal safety deadly force is allowed. People have been killed by unarmed people. You never know if they have friends near by or if they have taken training to defend themselves. Pepper spray is great for police officers and bouncers. Their job dictates they need to subdue unruly subjects. That isn't your job as Joe citizen. By having pepper spray you are either going to spray someone who didn't need it, or spray someone who should have been shot.

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    Mike, your logic is horribly flawed. You need to upgrade your decision-making skills to color, we're not in the black and white age anymore. By your logic there is no in-between. There is peaceful happiness or death and carnage.

    What happens if a drunkard accosts you and your dearly beloved with naught but his hands? They're capable of causing you harm, but certainly most courts would not say you are justified in shooting that man. What if he chases you? What if you're cornered by him in a restaurant? What if he's between you and your escape from wherever you are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miketrance View Post
    Perhaps someone here could explain this to me. Why is carrying pepper spray a good idea?
    Well, one scenario I can think of is that some low-life is in the process of trying to steal something from your car (or maybe trying to hot-wire your car so he can steal IT), while it's on your property. In most states, you can't shoot him for that. In some states, you also can't threaten to shoot him (or draw your gun) in that case. So do you just roll over and helplessly watch him steal your stuff? Or do you use non-lethal force (that IS legal) to convince him to leave your stuff alone?

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    Miketrance, as stated, you had better get with it. Learn a force continuum. Not every situation is best solved by killing.
    As a matter of fact, self defense, is by definition using a force enough to get you away from the attacker, or, neutralize the threat. It does not always call for deadly force.

    You will feel much better in the morning having sprayed someone who was assaultive, but unarmed, than to wake up knowing a nightmare was just beginning. Legal fees, and punishment, if any are alot less.
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    I can understand your points. I guess I never thought of it that way. I can see the point of it. I don't think I will carry Pepper spray though, I would hate to grab for the wrong thing by mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miketrance View Post
    Perhaps someone here could explain this to me. Why is carrying pepper spray a good idea? I think a good judge is does this situation require me to kill the other party. If the answer is no, then there isn't warrant to use any violence. If the guy is unarmed, and you don't believe that he poses a significant threat you can leave. Pepper spray isn't an alternative to avoidance. You can't just go around spraying people in the face when you could just walk away.
    OTOH, if your only option when confronted is to yell, run or shoot, you are NOT prepared.
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