what's considered OVERKILL when concealing?
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April 12th, 2012 04:07 PM
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what's considered OVERKILL when concealing?
Is carrying 2 guns (Compact + back up sub/ultra compact) + pocket knife considered OVERKILL? I've carried my G19 as my main gun and my Beretta Nano as a back up hidden else where on my body. Debating if i should leave the Nano or G19 (Depending on weather) at home and carry a 3.5" folding pocket knife OR carry all 3..
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April 12th, 2012 04:07 PM
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April 12th, 2012 04:09 PM
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A lot of people carry BUGs. And my knife isn't a weapon, it's a tool. I have ZERO desire to get in a knife fight. If the situation warrants me using a knife against someone, I'll just use a gun instead. If we're down to using deadly force I'm using the one that keeps me as far away from the other guy's pointy thing as possible. I'd call it overkill once you start concealing explosive devices.
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April 12th, 2012 04:11 PM
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I don't carry more than I can control in a scuffle.
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April 12th, 2012 04:16 PM
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A gun and a BUG isn't overkill.
A knife isn't overkill.
A non-lethal defense is smart, not overkill.
Back up mags aren't overkill.
I guess it depends on your level of preparation, your possibility of a social encounter, and your willingness to deal with issues. While I make every effort to avoid potential conflicts and I would be the first to retreat from a potential threat situation, I carry a lot more on a trip to town than I do on a Sunday morning in church. I carry a lot more in urban areas than I do in the country. But, I always have a gun.
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April 12th, 2012 04:47 PM
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Unless you are in a high threat level job, where you are purposefully and continually placing yourself in high risk situations, around high risk criminal people, yes, I consider it not just overkill, but bizarre.
For most all Joe and Suzie citizen types going about their daily lives, in clean little suburban neighborhoods with trips to the local yuppie grocer, one firearm, with an a less than lethal option is going to be plenty.
Alot of wannabes and GI Joes are gonna get their feelings hurt by this, but it's reality time...Hello!
Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast.
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April 12th, 2012 04:48 PM
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No, a primary and a BUG aren't overkill in my opinion. Nor is adding a non-lethal alternative like pepper spray. I don't carry a knife but I don't see that as a problem either.
Now carrying 3 or more guns, that's where someone is crossing the threshold to overkill.
I don't carry a gun to look for or start a fight. I carry one to finish a fight I never wanted to be in.
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April 12th, 2012 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Unless you are in a high threat level job, where you are purposefully and continually placing yourself in high risk situations, around high risk criminal people, yes, I consider it not just overkill, but bizarre.
For most all Joe and Suzie citizen types going about their daily lives, in clean little suburban neighborhoods with trips to the local yuppie grocer, one firearm, with an a less than lethal option is going to be plenty.
Alot of wannabes and GI Joes are gonna get their feelings hurt by this, but it's reality time...Hello!
But GI Joe is a real American hero....
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April 12th, 2012 04:51 PM
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Carrying a couple of these might be considered overkill.
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April 12th, 2012 04:52 PM
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I carry my full size M&P, 2 extra mags, and a small 18 gram can of OC spray. Carry whatever you're comfortable with, but I think it would be better to carry just one firearm at a time.
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April 12th, 2012 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
Harryball
But GI Joe is a real American hero....

True that! But he really goes into harms way as part of his job.
Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast.
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April 12th, 2012 04:54 PM
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Definitely not overkill. I carry a primary and a backup, and a small tactical flashlight if I am going to be out after dark.
The backup isn't for more firepower, it is in case of a malfunction of my primary. I figure, I already carry, even though it is highly unlikely that I will ever need my firearm, so why not play boy scout, and be prepared in case of a highly malfunction as well...
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April 12th, 2012 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Please don't give people any ideas! :)
I bet there are people who would attempt to carry that.
Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast.
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April 12th, 2012 04:55 PM
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The older I get, the less I carry. I always have my SA XD40 SC with me, if I'm going into Chester, PA, Philadelphia, PA, or Wilmington, DE, I'll also have my S&W Airweight with me as well.
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April 12th, 2012 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Unless you are in a high threat level job, where you are purposefully and continually placing yourself in high risk situations, around high risk criminal people, yes, I consider it not just overkill, but bizarre.
For most all Joe and Suzie citizen types going about their daily lives, in clean little suburban neighborhoods with trips to the local yuppie grocer, one firearm, with an a less than lethal option is going to be plenty.
Alot of wannabes and GI Joes are gonna get their feelings hurt by this, but it's reality time...Hello!
GI Joe kidding aside. G man is right. The mistake most CCW holders make, is they get gear oriented, instead of training oriented. Gear can be kewl, but when it hits the fan, you better know what you are doing. Otherwise you will fail....
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April 12th, 2012 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
glockman10mm
True that! But he really goes into harms way as part of his job.
Almost forgot...YO JOE.....
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