Concealed guns and the Appalachian Trail

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    Concealed guns and the Appalachian Trail

    It looks like the Appalachian Trail runs through 14 states. We've been considering hiking part of it from time to time. I've been doing some research on handgunlaw and looking at each of those states and what it says about carrying in State parks, State and National Forests, and WMA's.

    My wife has a Louisiana permit, and of those 14 states, here are the states that accept LA permits:
    Georgia- yes
    North Carolina- yes
    Tennessee- yes
    Virginia-yes
    West Virginia-yes
    Maryland-no
    Pennsylvania-yes
    New Jersey-no
    New York-no (also no carry in state or national parks or WMA's)
    Connecticut-no (also no carry in state or national parks or WMA's)
    Massachusetts-no
    Vermont-yes
    New Hampshire- yes
    Maine- yes

    I'm pretty sure I can carry under LEOSA in those 5 "no" states, which would broaden our range, but not sure about the New York and Connecticut park restrictions. The safest method is just not hike in those highly restricted states.

    Anyone have any particular experiences carrying concealed along the Appalachian Trail regardless of state. I'm still reading and doing research, it may be next year before we actually go there, just thinking about it now.
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    IF "LEOSA" is the post 9/11 exec order that allows LEO's to carry 24/7/365 "anywhere" thenI think you are golden to carry in all states. BUT I am not trained in the Law or exec orders! I think that some areas of the AT are also "posted" sort of;this info comes from Hiking sites I have read.

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    I hike on the AT frequently, but usually just in my home state of VA. There have been many murders and other violent crimes on the AT over the years and I believe at least one suspected serial murderer was active if I remember correctly. Not to mention the wildlife that can be dangerous. ~ 15 years ago I walked up on a mother Black Bear and two cubs. Cubs bolted and mother hung around until they were out of site and then left quickly as well.

    I frequently meet through hikers, (people hiking the entire trail), who travel in medium to large groups here, and although they are stinky beyond belief are always friendly.

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    I'm not going to comment on the laws/states. Just wanted to say that I loved hiking 'the' trail. I did not do the entire trail, but most of it over several years.

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    NC you are good to go in National Parks (Smokies), state parks (Not sure if it crosses any though), and Gamelands/Forest Service (which constitutes most of the publicly accessible land that's not related to a park). I can tell you the sections from Standing Indian, NC to I 40, any of it, are gut busting PUDS (Pointless ups and downs). And it's all beautiful. Some personal experience, and some experience sending groups in there. Oh, and later in the summer water gets kind of scarce on the ridge tops if it's the least bit dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew03 View Post
    they are stinky beyond belief are always friendly.
    Lol, I always wondered if anyone else could smell me. Oh well.

    Ppkheat your plan sounds like fun. When I first got into backpacking I always thought that would be a nice trip if I ever had the time. Of course I never did and had pretty much forgotten about it until now. I hope that you, unlike me, are able to bring your dream to fruition.

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    My wife has officially retired, I work for myself so I can hang it up anytime. We're both in pretty good shape (I'll be 60 soon), but I've been getting myself in better shape by running, climbing, carrying a load. Wife can't do the same right now but will begin in about a month. We'll take several day hikes in some of the Kisatchie Forests around here, then we'll go up to Arkansas and do some longer overnighter stuff and see how we like it before we ever consider the AT. I doubt seriously if we'd even consider a thru hike on it, but am interested in walking some sections each year.

    I'm not backpacking or hiking anywhere I can't be armed. As they say 2 legged and 4 legged......help would be too far away or non-existent.

    Good advice about walking with a group, though I'd wish for a "good-smelling" bunch though.
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    Just curious, on an average trip from one end to the other, how many times on average are you going to run into an armed (LE) Ranger or other LE? Unarmed Ranger?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    Just curious, on an average trip from one end to the other, how many times on average are you going to run into an armed (LE) Ranger or other LE? Unarmed Ranger?
    I could only guess, but this trail is 2100+ miles long. As far as needing help I doubt if there are many rangers nearby; as far as inquiries about weapons, I might suspect that at certain statelines, there could be a ranger station at that point? I've got some books ordered on the AT that may shed some light on that subject.
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    I've been hiking the VA section all my life and have never run into any type of LEO, be it Local, Game and Inland Fisheries, Federal, or State. Plenty are driving around in the National Forrest and State Forrest during hunting season, but I've never seen one on the AT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew03 View Post
    I've been hiking the VA section all my life and have never run into any type of LEO, be it Local, Game and Inland Fisheries, Federal, or State. Plenty are driving around in the National Forrest and State Forrest during hunting season, but I've never seen one on the AT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ppkheat View Post
    Good advice about walking with a group, though I'd wish for a "good-smelling" bunch though.
    Having spent 28 days backpacking at one time, after the first 5 days neither you or anyone else will notice. I'm sure we smelled bad to everyone else, but after 3 weeks in the woods all that Tide and perfume was pretty nasty smelling to us too. It was pretty funny, we could smell them for several minutes after they walked past.

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    Just curious, on an average trip from one end to the other, how many times on average are you going to run into an armed (LE) Ranger or other LE? Unarmed Ranger?
    This is just a guess, but you are most likely to run into a ranger in a National Park. But it will likely be a volunteer or non LE then if it's in the backcountry. I spent 28 days with a group in W NC, 2 summers guiding boy scouts on backpacking trips, 4 years taking twice yearly backpacking trips into WNC with kids, and countless personal days backpacking and dayhiking. The only rangers I remember seeing were along the road, at crowded tourist areas, or in visitors centers. They are too busy in the frontcountry to even think about getting into the backcountry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PM View Post
    IF "LEOSA" is the post 9/11 exec order that allows LEO's to carry 24/7/365 "anywhere" thenI think you are golden to carry in all states. BUT I am not trained in the Law or exec orders! I think that some areas of the AT are also "posted" sort of;this info comes from Hiking sites I have read.
    LEOSA is not 24/7/365 anywhere. All it does is allow eligible people to carry in all states subject to the same restrictions as a regular permit holder. It does not exempt them from any federal or state restrictions. If state law says no carry in state parks LEOSA does not supersede that state law. LEOSA does not exempt one from the federal gun free school zone act either.
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    Exclamation Conceal/Open carry-Appalacian Trail

    The appalacian trail runs through federal property throughout the entire trail. It is legal to possess a firearm within the boundaries of this land. Problem is, what you do with this firearm off the trail? You cannot enter any federal building with it (including restrooms), and if you're outside your states reprocity you're screwed.
    Answer short. Get a cc in your own state. Get a non resident in florida and/or Vermont. When you get close to a trailhead unload. Whenever going Into town-field strip your weapon
    . Only have your weapon ready to "work" while in the wilderness.
    These tactics have helped me trek the trail without incidence .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppkheat View Post
    It looks like the Appalachian Trail runs through 14 states. We've been considering hiking part of it from time to time. I've been doing some research on handgunlaw and looking at each of those states and what it says about carrying in State parks, State and National Forests, and WMA's.

    My wife has a Louisiana permit, and of those 14 states, here are the states that accept LA permits:
    Georgia- yes
    North Carolina- yes
    Tennessee- yes
    Virginia-yes
    West Virginia-yes
    Maryland-no
    Pennsylvania-yes
    New Jersey-no
    New York-no (also no carry in state or national parks or WMA's)
    Connecticut-no (also no carry in state or national parks or WMA's)
    Massachusetts-no
    Vermont-yes
    New Hampshire- yes
    Maine- yes

    I'm pretty sure I can carry under LEOSA in those 5 "no" states, which would broaden our range, but not sure about the New York and Connecticut park restrictions. The safest method is just not hike in those highly restricted states.

    Anyone have any particular experiences carrying concealed along the Appalachian Trail regardless of state. I'm still reading and doing research, it may be next year before we actually go there, just thinking about it now.

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