Oh well...they were too expensive anyways. ;)
This is a discussion on Add Red Lobster to the list within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; With regards to a sign having the force of law..... Folks, we are exercising our rights to carry - and if a person on private ...
With regards to a sign having the force of law.....
Folks, we are exercising our rights to carry - and if a person on private (or corporate) property chooses to post a sign - they are within their rights as property owners to do so. As I said in a different forum, respect opens doors - disrespect closes them. If we expect people to respect our rights, why is it ok for us to disrespect theirs? Its not.... Exercise your rights - but do so responsibly.
Oh well...they were too expensive anyways. ;)
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My wife and I eat at RL yesterday here in Oklahoma. There was no firearms sign on the door. here in Oklahoma the signs do not carry the weight of the law. my carry was on my side the whole time I eat. :)
We should not forget that the spark which ignited the American Revolution was caused by the British attempt to confiscate the firearms of the colonists. -
Red Lobster & Olive Garden (Same owners) went off my list when they refused to allow a US flag inside for a Veteran Group luncheon. The group had to make believe the flag was behind the podium. They said it had to do with a concern for anyone bringing in banners, etc... Last time I was there, I saw a birthday banner which I guess is OK...
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Some Nashville parks are postage-stamp size. So one has to be aware where they are stepping. Also, a significant amount of Nashville's violent crime happens in city parks. So one has to be aware, generally. Nashville and many other cities exercised their power of prohibition over carry in municipal parks as follows:Reading Tenn. Code Ann. §39-17-1309 together with Chapter 428 indicates that the legislature intended to allow handgun carry permit holders to carry their firearms into public parks except onto athletic fields and into other recreation areas at times when they are actually being used by schools.(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (b)(1)(H), any municipality or county may prohibit, by resolution adopted by a majority vote of its legislative body, persons authorized to carry a handgun pursuant to § 39-17-1351, from possessing the handgun while within or on a public park that is owned or operated by a county, a municipality or instrumentality thereof. If a legislative body elects to prohibit the possession of handguns within a park, the prohibition shall apply to the entire park, notwithstanding subdivision (b)(1)(H). If the area is jointly owned or operated by municipalities or counties, then a resolution adopted by a majority vote of all affected legislative bodies, voting individually, is necessary for the municipalities or counties to prohibit persons authorized to carry a handgun pursuant to § 39-17-1351 from possessing the handgun while within the park.To have force of law, a sign has to be a circle with a slash through a gun or have wording similar to that quoted. There are other specific requirements of the signs, "Either form of notice used shall be of a size that is plainly visible to the average person entering the building, property, or portion of the building or property, posted". That's the black and white of it, Kimberpackn. And I like Red Lobster."The international circle and slash symbolizing the prohibition of the item within the circle; or.... it shall contain language substantially similar to the following: AS AUTHORIZED BY T.C.A. § 39-17-1359, POSSESSION OF A WEAPON ON POSTED PROPERTY OR IN A POSTED BUILDING IS PROHIBITED AND IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE.
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-Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)Americans understood the right of self-preservation as permitting a citizen to repel force by force
when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
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I am curious about how much discretion franchise owners have in this. It seems to vary location by location. Almost nothing here is posted... only Buffalo Wild Wings, a couple of local banks, and IBM. None of our local restaurants, chain restaurants, or stores are posted. I think most of them have decided not to post and just follow whatever state law is.
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Red Lobster is overrated and overpriced when it comes to seafood in my opinion.
The only thing that I really liked were the cheesy biscuts. Now I have another reason
to avoid going to Red Lobster.
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Taurus - 851 - .38 Special
Taurus - 617 - .357 Magnum
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Glock 26 - 9MM
I'm currently sitting at a table in Red Lobster across from McCain Mall in North Little Rock, Ar with a full size m1911-a1 .45 on my belt. There is no sign at this location.
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I say choose your battles. We may not like the law and their right to apply it but it is what it is. We operate within the law.The private business/property has for a long time had this option.Its not new, its not a threat to our 2A right to keep and bear arms. If you like their food,eat there. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face.Ask them if they are willing to accept the liability for your safety if something goes south. Ask them what security they provide for you and your family. Tell them in no uncertain terms that if they deny you the opportunity to protect yourself you will hold them 100% liable. When they tell you they will call the police,ask them what their response time is,and how much damage could be done while their waiting. Ask the manager if he will personally come to your table and protect you and your family while you all wait for the police to arrive.Give them something to think about,maybe,just maybe they will reconsider their posistion.If they do,we win,if they don't,eat up.
Funny, just ate at Red Lobster this afternoon with the wife, and there was no sign...this is in Wichita, Kansas.
Only problem with that Steve, is , The BGs don't care a wit about your rules.What you have created is a more unsafe place for your customers. You make (force them) to become sheep with no defense if a BG decides he wants to go nuts. Tell your customers that you will personally protect each and every one of them until the calvery arrives.That you have denied them a fundamental human right to self preservation,and that you take full responsibility for their safety,in fact you guarantee it. You and people that think like you live in a fantasy world. Do you think the thugs,druggies,punks and scum bags don't plan anything. They know where to go where there will be no protection. Could be many resons for RL's posistion on firearms,but don't insult our intellegence by telling us its to make your customers safer.Please.
Must be a local thing, eat at the one here in Texas never seen a sign
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