NM now honors only 5 states

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    Other states have tried the same - until they realize how much of their tourism/hunting dollars will be spent in other states.
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    see what happens when liberals are in charge? what happened there? guns were a part of the culture there.
    I guess the santa fe koomba ya crowd has gotten too powerful
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    This is sad, but they still allow permitless OC.
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    The only one of the 5 states that even issues a non-resident CC permit looks to be ND, according to handgunlaw.us. One of the onerous steps required to get a ND non-res permit is you have to take their written test administered by someone in ND. On top of that, the ND permit is only good for 3 years.

    The only thing left going for NM is that it is an open carry state. This would practically be the only way for most of us to carry their if we decided to visit.

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    Wow, it looks like I am still covered here from Nebraska. I wonder just what made Nebraska so special?
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    My in laws are in NM.

    Drat, now we can't visit them.
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    Does anyone know definitively what is behind the sudden change in NM's reciprocity agreements? As I understand it, these are established by unelected persons, not voted on by their Legislature. New kid in town, shift in the political winds, or what???
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    That bites, now if I go to AZ I guess i'll have to OC while heading thru NM,cause I'm not gonna drive 12 hours out of the way just to bypass NM.I'll just gas up before I leave Texas and make sure the only thing I stop for is to P
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    Guess if we head back to Colorado at some point, we'll go via Kansas.

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    Yup, just come up through the panhandles and jump on 287. no kansas required :)

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    This is interesting. From the NM website.

    New Mexico statute 29-19-12E requires that in order for a state to be recognized by NM, their provisions have to be “at least as stringent or substantially similar” to New Mexico. NMDPS has generally found six things that make a state substantially different from New Mexico, and therefore would disqualify that state from being recognized:

    Permits issued locally rather than by the state;
    No fingerprint-based background check;
    Permits issued to persons under 21 years of age;
    Permits issued to resident aliens;
    No classroom (static) training required;
    No live-fire (dynamic) training required.

    So, for TX, the only difference is the permit is issued by the state rather than locally, correct? It will be more interesting if the 'offended' states reject NM's permit.

    Thanks Inhuman, never gone that way, but looks easy enough.
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    Well, will change my trip route now and go around New Mexico.... this really sucks. I'll go across Southern Colorado and drop down into Arizona. Wanted to visit several places along the way in NM, but won't spend a dime there now.

    We meet every requirement they have, but ... a change in our law now allows "resident aliens" to have a permit.... so that's the reason they had to use to eliminate us. I'm betting that our AG will drop New Mexico off our recognized list as well, since our law requires "recriprocal agreements " with the other state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Does anyone know definitively what is behind the sudden change in NM's reciprocity agreements? As I understand it, these are established by unelected persons, not voted on by their Legislature. New kid in town, shift in the political winds, or what???
    READ THE N.M. PRESS RELEASE !
    They wrote the changes INTO their own CCW LAW!!!


    Reciprocity Agreements | New Mexico Department of Public Safety

    If your Home State doesn't require even ONE of the Following - you will NOT be given reciprocity!!!
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    New Mexico statute 29-19-12E requires that in order for a state to be recognized by NM, their provisions have to be “at least as stringent or substantially similar” to New Mexico. NMDPS has generally found six things that make a state substantially different from New Mexico, and therefore would disqualify that state from being recognized:

    1. Permits issued locally rather than by the state;
    2. No fingerprint-based background check;
    3. Permits issued to persons under 21 years of age;
    4. Permits issued to resident aliens;
    5. No classroom (static) training required;
    6. No live-fire (dynamic) training required.

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    IE : my state (PA) doesn't require fingerprints OR LIVE FIRE
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    I'm betting this comes back and "bites them" in the long run. If NM residents find their licenses won't be recognized as well in other states that require recripocal agreements (which many do), they won't be happy campers. Looks like NM needs to make some adjustments in their law and criteria.

    It does make me wonder "why" they are doing this or what prompted it, because our state recripocal agreement with them occurred only a couple of months ago.
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