Bad - TSA Seizes Record Number of Guns at Love Field

Bad - TSA Seizes Record Number of Guns at Love Field

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    Bad - TSA Seizes Record Number of Guns at Love Field

    TSA Seizes Record Number of Guns at Love Field
    Agents seize 15 guns so far this year

    By Ellen Goldberg | Friday, Apr 27, 2012 | Updated 11:41 PM CDT


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    ........All of the travelers had concealed handgun licenses and simply forgot they were armed, the TSA said.

    But whether it is an accident or not, all passengers caught with a weapon in their carry-on are arrested. The civil fines can reach up to $10,000.

    “If you are planning on taking a quick weekend trip, that can turn into an expensive endeavor if you don't take that time upfront that you know everything in your bag,” said Amy Williams, TSA federal security director at Love Field.

    Read the rest and View Channel 5 NBCDFW Video Report: TSA Seizes Record Number of Guns at Love Field | NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth
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    there is no fixing stupid, almost 99,99999% of the population knows that you cannot bring a loaded gun onto a commercial aircraft anywhere in the world. those who "forgot" must be numb minded fools
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    I would suggest that before flying,any bags you will be using need to be fully checked before loading them and anything you are carrying in your pockets need to be laid out in front so you don't end up with a bullet in your change pocket,or any knives etc.
    I will bet money that a majority of those caught don't carry on body,but carry a gun in their check on bag off body every day and since they don't have to physically put on or take off a holster every day they don't think about it
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    I had a leatherman confiscated because I put it on as a matter of routine. I have had one on my belt for the better part of 15 years now, and I feel wrong not having one.

    Granted, a gun weighs more, and isn't something so easily dismissed. I can still see how it can happen.

    Also, I could have mailed the Leatherman back to myself, but I didn't have enough time.

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    Happens quite often at Hartsfield in Atlanta, too.

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    I just find it almost unbelievable that someone would go to an airport with a firearm and not be aware of it.

    Even when true, it is a stunning lack of care and awareness.

    If these folks don't know where there weapons are, how can they even think of getting to them in an emergency. What do they do, put it away in a gym bag and completely forget they own the thing?

    10K is sort of steep for a license holder, but some folks need a 2 x 4 across the head before they learn to pay attention to the task at hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    I would suggest that before flying,any bags you will be using need to be fully checked before loading them and anything you are carrying in your pockets need to be laid out in front so you don't end up with a bullet in your change pocket,or any knives etc.
    I will bet money that a majority of those caught don't carry on body,but carry a gun in their check on bag off body every day and since they don't have to physically put on or take off a holster every day they don't think about it
    In other words, why do they bother? Licensed possessor of a weapon in his bag to BG, "uh could you hang on a sec while I
    look for my gun, its here somewhere on the bottom of my gym bag."
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    I think you need to re-read the article.

    It never once mentions that the people who had firearms seized had no clue where the gun was. They just didn't think about having armed themselves as they probably always do. Sometimes breaking your normal habit really is a hard thing to do. Not that it makes taking a banned item into an airport any less stupid, I just think that it's not as big of a deal as some are trying to make it out to be.

    It's best not to jump to conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFury View Post
    I think you need to re-read the article.

    It never once mentions that the people who had firearms seized had no clue where the gun was. They just didn't think about having armed themselves as they probably always do. Sometimes breaking your normal habit really is a hard thing to do. Not that it makes taking a banned item into an airport any less stupid, I just think that it's not as big of a deal as some are trying to make it out to be.

    It's best not to jump to conclusions.
    In my opinion, a firearm (wether it was forgotten or there on purpose or someone just didn't know the law) going through security at the airport is just plain stupid. $10,000 fine, jail, felony, can't own firearms anymore, can't vote anymore...... Huge deal for me.

    Also IMO, if someone is going to the airport and can't change their routine enough that they don't commit a felony firearms violation, then they should get what's comming to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    there is no fixing stupid, almost 99,99999% of the population knows that you cannot bring a loaded gun onto a commercial aircraft anywhere in the world. those who "forgot" must be numb minded fools
    Agreed. And yet IMO, having a gun on a plane is no different than having one on my hip at Wal-Mart. Oh how 9-11 could have been different if passengers were armed.

    Do they really think just because I fly I am going to forego my law abiding ways and hijack a jumbo jet?

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    Trying to catch a plane at ungodly times is stressful ( pain in the butt) and throws you all off your routines and habits. I can understand where someone might forget where they packed certian items. i only fly if it is an emergency. Denver tv also had a segment on weapons being confiscated. My idea of airline security is issue every pasanger a handgun. Everyone would behave then.
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    With the high profile incidents of the TSA feeling up 2 year olds and such, perhaps if you are so forgetful that you can't remember you are armed when going to a prohibited place you shouldn't be carrying a gun at all.

    (And by prohibited I mean high profile places like an airport or a federal building, not Mom's Diner)
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    And The Percentage Is..

    Anglico said in part..

    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    TSA Seizes Record Number of Guns at Love Field. Agents seize 15 guns so far this year.
    So... since the beginning of the year (118 days ago), 15 firearms were found by the TSA. Let's see now. That means 1 firearm was found every 7.86 days (averaged out).

    If we knew the total number of licensed firearm owners who passed through the airport and looked at the 15 firearms found by the TSA, I bet the percentage of firearms found against the total number that "could have been found" would be in the 0.000___???? (place a number in the blank) range.

    Sorry if I'm having problems explaining what I want to say, but..

    I think the TSA is making this "15 guns found" way out of proportion in the whole scheme of things. Just my thought. Your mileage may very.

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    How many actually "forgot" and how many were pushing the "envelope" and got "licked".
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