Why the .380 won't protect you

Why the .380 won't protect you

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    Why the .380 won't protect you

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    You're walking home after work. It's dark. A man of this size suprises you, jumps you from an alley, and pulls a knife. You have a few seconds to react.
    You pull your .380 and his fat stops them. You die.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MP9NewMexico View Post
    You're walking home after work. It's dark. A man of this size suprises you, jumps you from an alley, and pulls a knife. You have a few seconds to react. You pull your .380 and his fat stops them. You die.
    Other side of coin....... fat does not stop them perp dies. There are many factors that enter into a "shoot". Things depend on type of ammo, where the rounds hit the person, etc., etc. I am sure there are accounts of larger size weapons that had the same outcome you state.
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    First, if a guy that fat pulls a knife, I'm pretty confident I can outrun him.

    More seriously - .380 FMJ gets 16-17 inches in gel. Placement is going to be the issue, not the caliber.
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    If you are being attacked by a knife wielder you likely don't have a few seconds to react.
    Practice for the scenario, off the x, disarm, fast deployment, are as likely if not more so to determine
    the outcome as your caliber. Remember, this will be up close. A knife wielder can't harm you much
    from a distance unless he throws it. At belly distance, chest and head shots are what might save you; and then again
    you might get stabbed by a dead man.
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    From as close as you'd be to the BG I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be the one walking home after.
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    In the few seconds I have to react...if I'm alone, I'm runnin'. I'm pretty sure that I can outrun someone this size.

    If I'm wiith my SO, I'm getting in between him and my SO, then I'm aiming/shooting, whatever I'm carrying at the time, at his melon sized head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MP9NewMexico View Post
    You pull your .380 and his fat stops them. You die.
    Has Jenny Craig released a new ballistics test's results?

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    Sweet! So at my size I only need to worry if someone pulls a 50 bmg. on me. Why bother carrying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear.357 View Post
    From as close as you'd be to the BG I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be the one walking home after.
    Uh, the real problem is that maybe neither of you will be walking home. If you haven't trained to react and deal with a knife
    attack, you and your attacker might well both end up dead on the side walk, two feet from each other. If you are really lucky
    you'll be huggin.
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    So, you pull out your .88 Magnum, only to find out that it wasn't fat, it was two level IV plates taped together. They stop your .88 Magnum. You die. Thus "proving" that the .88 Magnum won't protect you.

    Is this SERIOUSLY a topic here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MP9NewMexico View Post
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    You're walking home after work. It's dark. A man of this size suprises you, jumps you from an alley, and pulls a knife. You have a few seconds to react.
    You pull your .380 and his fat stops them. You die.
    I was thinking it was because most people can pass a kidney stone with more energy behind it.

    Seriously, though, would you want to test that theory? If you're worried about a .380 penetrating, carry FMJs- that will do the trick. I won't carry FMJs; chance of too much penetration, and I don't want to hit the innocent behind him.
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    You pull your .380 and his fat stops them. You die
    It could be said...

    You pull your .22 and his fat stops them. You die
    You pull your .25 and his fat stops them. You die
    You pull your ..38 and his fat stops them. You die
    You pull your .357 and his fat stops them. You die
    You pull your .40 and his fat stops them. You die
    You pull your .44 and his fat stops them. You die
    You pull your .45 and his fat stops them. You die

    because every one of them has failed to stop at one time or another.
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    Try doing some research on ballistics, and putting together a more intelligently constructed post, if you want to appear credible. Otherwise, you don't seem to know what you're talking about.
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    But does he seem to appear to seem to appear how he seems? Or does he only seem that way? :)
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    A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.

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