Help - Missouri Carry Laws

Help - Missouri Carry Laws

This is a discussion on Help - Missouri Carry Laws within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I will be traveling to the Show-Me state soon, and I need help understanding the laws. I've read Handgunlaw.us , but it is a little ...

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    Help - Missouri Carry Laws

    I will be traveling to the Show-Me state soon, and I need help understanding the laws. I've read Handgunlaw.us, but it is a little tricky to put into perspective. Can somebody just give me the "dos" and "don'ts" about carrying in Missouri?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walden View Post
    I will be traveling to the Show-Me state soon, and I need help understanding the laws. I've read Handgunlaw.us, but it is a little tricky to put into perspective. Can somebody just give me the "dos" and "don'ts" about carrying in Missouri?
    Tricky? Gary and co. lay it out as accurately and as simply as you are going to get it.
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    In schools, government buildings, jails, bars, or stadiums you can't carry but can legally have it in your car.

    Any place with a sign does not carry, law but if asked to leave you must or you're trespassing.

    They are pretty strict about carrying on a city bus too. (From what I read it is a major no no.)
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    The Arch is government property and has metal detectors so DON'T carry there.

    If there are any more questions about specifics feel free to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STLRampage View Post
    In schools, government buildings, jails, bars, or stadiums you can't carry but can legally have it in your car.

    Any place with a sign does not carry, law but if asked to leave you must or you're trespassing.

    They are pretty strict about carrying on a city bus too. (From what I read it is a major no no.)
    This is exactly what I needed, thanks. What is the deal with signage, particularly at "restraints deriving more than 50% of their income from the sale of alcohol?" In texas there is a "51%" sign that they must display. Is there a Missouri equivalent?

    How about banks?

    Just to clarify: "no gun" signs DO NOT have the force of law. Can I be prosecuted in any way for being somewhere with a "no gun" sign?
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    No banks. Signs don't have the weight of law, but you still need to know where not to go - banks have signs, but you definitely can't go in. search MO revised statutes 571 - that will get you all the weapons laws. The state is open carry, but local ordinances can prohibit and there are no markers as you go from one legal area to another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walden View Post
    This is exactly what I needed, thanks. What is the deal with signage, particularly at "restraints deriving more than 50% of their income from the sale of alcohol?" In texas there is a "51%" sign that they must display. Is there a Missouri equivalent?

    How about banks?

    Just to clarify: "no gun" signs DO NOT have the force of law. Can I be prosecuted in any way for being somewhere with a "no gun" sign?
    Banks are a no go, no gun signs DO NOT carry the weight of law but if asked to leave you must, or you are guilty of trespassing as someone previously said. To my knowledge there is no 51% signage, you just have to ask...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowbait View Post
    Banks are a no go, no gun signs DO NOT carry the weight of law but if asked to leave you must, or you are guilty of trespassing as someone previously said. To my knowledge there is no 51% signage, you just have to ask...
    Banks are most defiantly NOT off limits, when I first moved to Columbia and was bank shopping that was one question I asked, Boone County National said lawful carry was welcome in all their banks; I use to open carry including the downtown main branch. Plus bars (>51% revenue from alcohol by the drink) are off limits by statute, no specific sign, but you can only be asked to leave, refusal is trespass. Interesting side note; due to over reaching by LEO and a zealot prosecutor you can now be falling down drunk in the middle of the street while carrying and as long as you do nothing "stupid" with the firearm there is NO weapons violation (NOT recommended, but legal).

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    I'll be visiting the Truman Library Museum tomorrow. Looks like the Library is maintained and administered by the National Archives and Records Administration so looks like no carry there, federal employee workplace and such.

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    Some states give mention to alcohol consumption or prohibition thereof while carrying. Missouri laws and administrative rules give no mention of alcohol consumption either in the affirmative or negative. I'm betting I will not be carrying at the Boulevard Brewing Company tour on Thursday and for at least some time period after.

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    Well, looks like we will not be going on the brewery tour.

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    Casinos are off limits for carry as well, or so I'm led to believe. Correct me if I'm wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walden View Post
    Just to clarify: "no gun" signs DO NOT have the force of law. Can I be prosecuted in any way for being somewhere with a "no gun" sign?
    This question - is so many of its forms - disturbs me.... So your going onto someone else's property while knowing their wishes to NOT have you armed? Really? And yet you somehow expect people to show respect for your right to carry when you can't seem to respect their private property rights....

    And people wonder why there is a bad perception about those of us that choose to carry....

    If they have a sign - and your adamant about carrying - frequent another establishment / business. Violating someone else's rights just to prove a point instead of walking to the store across the street makes you little better than those that want to disrespect your right to carry by doing away with it.

    Yea I get it - "concealed is concealed" - so as long as no one sees you doing it, its ok apparently. Funny - I guess character means something different to most folks nowadays....

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    Hospitals are also off limits, sign or no sign. Non-commercial, ie, residential, if not posted is ok. I think. IANAL.
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    I agree for the need to respect a private owners right to keep firearms off their property.I have missed the signs before and gone about my business inside but here in Missouri its not a crime. If your asked to leave because your armed you must go immediatley.Don't argue be respectful and leave. It is when the cops get called because you refuse to leave that brings about tresspassing and other possible charges.

    Missouri is a cool state about carry in most places.I go to courthouses alot so i leave it in the car. Same at church. I use the drivethu at my bank 99% of the time but like today had to go inside the lobby, i left it in the car.I know all the what ifs and what not, i am in the hands of God anyhow armed and unarmed. There are stores that do have signs and i dont patron their establishments i take my business elsewhere.

    travel to Missouri and miss the brewry tour on account of not being able to carry,its everyones choice and for them its right..i just think id risk it and not carry and go ahead and take the tour and enjoy a bit of my vacation. Guess its all a balance on how you want to live. I want to protect myself and by the same token dont want the thugs winning by keeping me from enjoying the fruits of my labor..I respect all carriers and what they choose for themselves

    So come enjoy Missouri there is alot of us out here who value the right to carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo View Post
    This question - is so many of its forms - disturbs me.... So your going onto someone else's property while knowing their wishes to NOT have you armed? Really? And yet you somehow expect people to show respect for your right to carry when you can't seem to respect their private property rights....

    And people wonder why there is a bad perception about those of us that choose to carry....

    If they have a sign - and your adamant about carrying - frequent another establishment / business. Violating someone else's rights just to prove a point instead of walking to the store across the street makes you little better than those that want to disrespect your right to carry by doing away with it.

    Yea I get it - "concealed is concealed" - so as long as no one sees you doing it, its ok apparently. Funny - I guess character means something different to most folks nowadays....

    Whooooaaaahhhhh, hold on now. Before you start accusing me of detracting from the character of the community, understand where I am coming from. First, I am used to Texas laws. An establishment must go through a legal process to obtain a 30.06 sign (the sign that legally prohibits carry at a location) before they can limit the rights of those who carry concealed firearms. I walk right past the "fake" signs because the person who posted it is not going through the right and just channels before trying to LIMIT ME.

    Ok, so things are different in Missouri and this point no longer applies. But that brings me to my second point: why should I allow somebody to compromise my safety without just cause? I get limiting carry at bars, places where people are drinking, schools, and athletic events. That is why I do not carry when going to those places/doing those things. But a shop or restaurant is different. I cannot think of a reason to prohibit carry other than the owner being uncomfortable with firearms. I respect the opposite standpoint, but I have a FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT (remember, the 2nd amendment was incorporated by the 14th amendment) to carry. This goes beyond common decency, strength of character, or whatever it is that you are accusing me of lacking. If the government or another citizen is going to infringe upon the rights of another citizen, they should have a legal justification for doing so.

    Still, I do not plan on carrying where there are "no carry" signs. My concern stems from my inexperience. I am unfamiliar with Missouri's gun laws and I was concerned that I might accidentally violate a law. Again, I do not plan on doing carrying where it is not "allowed," but it is nice to know I cannot go to jail for screwing up.

    To everybody else: thank you for your help and grace in educating me before my trip. I hope it will be fun and safe.
    "Though defensive violence will always be a 'sad necessity' in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men." - St. Augustine

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