New Fashion Wrinkle: Stylishly Hiding the Gun

New Fashion Wrinkle: Stylishly Hiding the Gun

This is a discussion on New Fashion Wrinkle: Stylishly Hiding the Gun within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; The NY Times ran this article about a week ago: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/24/us...it_th_20120424 By MATT RICHTEL Published: April 23, 2012 Woolrich, a 182-year-old clothing company, describes its ...

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    New Fashion Wrinkle: Stylishly Hiding the Gun

    The NY Times ran this article about a week ago:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/24/us...it_th_20120424

    By MATT RICHTEL
    Published: April 23, 2012

    Woolrich, a 182-year-old clothing company, describes its new chino pants as an elegant and sturdy fashion statement, with a clean profile and fabric that provides comfort and flexibility.

    And they are great for hiding a handgun.

    The company has added a second pocket behind the traditional front pocket for a weapon. Or, for those who prefer to pack their gun in a holster, it can be tucked inside the stretchable waistband. The back pockets are also designed to help hide accessories, like a knife and a flashlight.

    The chinos, which cost $65, are not for commandos, but rather, the company says, for the fashion-aware gun owner. And Woolrich has competition. Several clothing companies are following suit, building businesses around the sharp rise in people with permits to carry concealed weapons.

    “When someone walks down the street in a button-down and khakis, the bad guy gets a glimmer of fear, wondering: are they packing or not?” said Allen Forkner, a spokesman for Woolrich, which started its concealed-carry line in 2010 with three shirts.
    A version of this article appeared in print on April 24, 2012, on page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: New Fashion Wrinkle: Stylishly Hiding the Gun.

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    The comments are running the gamut from pro to anti, as expected.

    One comment sticks out. In the article it says:

    "Gun owners say they want to practice “maximum uncertainty,” meaning that if a gun is sufficiently concealed, a potential criminal will be unsure whether to attack. Gun experts say the research is inconclusive about whether such tactics reduce crime. Regardless, the clothing makers are jumping on the line of thinking."

    A reader wrote:
    "What does this phrase mean? I've never seen this term as it relates to gun possession and web searches points back to this article. Did someone say this or are these scare quotes?"
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    "Are you ready to go dear?"

    "Just a minute honey. I just need to grab my Elite Discreet Carry Twill jacket."



    Now, there's a mouthful.
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    The problem with Elite Discreet Carry clothes is that they often scream "gun"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene83 View Post
    "Are you ready to go dear?"

    "Just a minute honey. I just need to grab my Shoot Me First Elite Discreet Carry Twill jacket."



    Now, there's a mouthful.
    Fixed that for you. :)
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    Originally Posted by Gene83
    "Are you ready to go dear?"

    "Just a minute honey. I just need to grab my Shoot Me First Elite Discreet Carry Twill jacket."



    Now, there's a mouthful.
    Fixed that for you. :)
    I agree that a lot of the "tactical" screams "GUN" to those who cc, but this jacket actually looks pretty good to me.....
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    I think that they only scream "GUN" to people that carry guns.
    Since ony around 2-3% of people in this country carry guns for self defense, most of the others are oblivious to it.
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    The pants don't come in a long enough inseam for me.

    The jackets do look pretty nice, however.

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    A lot of people are caught up in their own world, ignoring their own SA, and not even noticing someone who is OCing. Clothing designed to conceal a gun would likely be noticed by very few people. iMHO
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    I will definitely be checking out this line of concealed-carry friendly clothing. If those of us who find this a good thing cause them to have an unexpectedly strong uptick in sales, we may have others emulate their example. I would like that!

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    Now we just need someone with fashion sense to come up with this stuff for the tactical ladies amongst us
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    I think that they only scream "GUN" to people that carry guns.
    Since ony around 2-3% of people in this country carry guns for self defense, most of the others are oblivious to it.
    Exactly. The average person is lost in their own little world. So what if they do notice? Years ago,I asked a retired cop what would happen if somebody noticed a lump where my gun is located. He replied, " who cares? you have a license to carry and as long as it is reasonably concealed it is none of their business".
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    Great idea, but the stretch waistband looks terrible. If you're going to include one, at least use the "invisible" design that other manufacturers are using.
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    Heck, I'll let you guys into a little secret.
    Go to your local Army/Navy Store and see if they have some Tru-Spec BDU Cargo Pants.
    They are $32 to $36 dollars a pair and come with stretch waste bands a extra pockets inside the thigh cargo pockets that work well for a handgun. I can carry a full size frame, but usually limit myself to my LC9 because of the weight issue. I can carry my S&W Sigma, with the Crimson Trace Laser, no problem, but it presses against my leg more than I'm comfortable when seated in a form fitted seat with that large a frame.

    Not to mention magazine pockets on the side at the hips, which also work well for mini mag flashlights, knives, screwdrivers, pens, etc. And the knees are reinforced and have poickets for inserting knee pads if you want.
    Then there are the small outside pockets on the Cargo Pockets that are perfect for cell phones. The best part is I can still retrieve my handgun from my cargo pocket while seated in my pickup.

    They also come in shorts too.
    Here's a Video of them.

    Review of the 24-7 Pants by Truspec - Uniform Pants / Cargo Pant - YouTube

    Since I'm a Cargo Pants type guy most people think it's a fashion statement for me.
    I've been wearing them for years and have carried in them from day one.
    I even carry around the house in the shorts. You'd have to know I was armed and look hard to tell I'm carrying.

    Sure a lot cheaper to go this way.
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    They have guns in NY?
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    I have been wearing these to work for over a year now, they conceal my Commander size 1911 when I need to play dress up for work or an evening out on the town. Nothing tactical looking about these at all.

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