Shenandoah National Park sign that says firearms must be unloaded

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    Shenandoah National Park sign that says firearms must be unloaded

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    This picture is on an open road in the Shenandoah National Park. After CCW was allowed in the national parks, all their previous signs about weapons were removed but this one has recently appeared. How does this affect CCW and is it legal for them to post this sign? Thanks for your help

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    Being the park is federal all I can suggest is to contact the appropriate federal agency concerning the sign and the legal issues it might pose.
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    Welcome to the forum.

    Contact the National Park Service for clarification on the sign. Have them show you the regulation authorizing it. To be honest, I have a feeling that the sign is not authorized. They don't usually use a hand painted sign, and there is no reference to the NPS on it.
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    Definitely contact the NPS, but don't discount the possibility that it's a misunderstanding. They could be just trying to ensure no one is hunting in this area.
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    Concealed carry is allowed in national parks, so I am assuming the sign is not strictly legal, however, I would contact the park service, and possibly an attorney specializing in firearms law.
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    I recently camped in Valley of Fire State park in so. NV. I noticed a posting that said no firearms allowed. I spoke to a ranger and was told the sign was not correct and open and concealed carry was now legal in the park. The law was changed in July 2011. Went back a month latter and the same sign is still on the board.

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    A sign (hand) painted on a board and nailed to a tree sure doesn't seem very official, but I'd check anyhow.
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    I grew up in the shadows if the Blue Ridge Mtn. You would always see hand painted signs thru out the parks. Most were put there by loggers who didn't want to get shot at while working.
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    I believe the concealed carry in National parks is tied to the State laws that the park is in. Here in Fla we could CCW carry in State parks so we can conceal carry since the federal regulations changed.

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    The sign means nothing as far as the law goes. This link on Shenandoah's website makes it clear that Virginia law governs firearms law in the park. However, be aware of the limitations for entering certain buildings on national park land, also on the website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by my2friends View Post
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    This picture is on an open road in the Shenandoah National Park. After CCW was allowed in the national parks, all their previous signs about weapons were removed but this one has recently appeared. How does this affect CCW and is it legal for them to post this sign? Thanks for your help
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    Just sent email to Shenandoan National Park asking them about sign

    I just emailed Shenandoan National Park to see what their response is. I will post it here when and if they reply.

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    Interesting. Looks to me like someone took it upon themselves to do it. Note that the regs says not to put nails in trees , yet it's nailed up. Hence why I believe it was not put up by the NPS.


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    Concealed is concealed and that sign would not stop me from carrying a weapon in a national park. Never has, never will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    Concealed is concealed and that sign would not stop me from carrying a weapon in a national park. Never has, never will.
    Keep in mind that in many of the buildings on national parks it is illegal to have any firearms. Yes, you carry concealed which does not insure they will never find out. Example: you pass out while in the building and they find your weapon. The "feds" have no sense of humor and will charge you which knowing the "feds" it will be a felony. So good luck to you.
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