This is a discussion on What is the Purpose of Using A Mini-Red Dot Sight On a Pistol: Combat? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by JD What I've found in my very, very limited use of the Delta Point is that it eliminates my issues related to ...
I didn't have to do anything other than bring the gun out. No canting of the pistol, no holding it left of center, no turning the head to get my left eye closer to the sights...just bring the gun up to a high ready and extend out. No eye fatigue, no blurred sight picture, just a big red triangle on target.
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If irons were the best option, scopes would have never been placed on hunting rifles. If scopes were the best option, rmr's would have never been placed on today's fighting rifles. If rmr's are better than irons on rifles, why would they not be better on handguns used for fightning?
"that don't stick out like a sore thumb"- Ram Rod
If it's on a concealed handgun, no one's gonna see it till you need to see it. Then, its 'sticky outtiness' is really gonna work in your favor.
"that you can find holsters for"- Ram Rod
Most any open top holster will fit the modified gun, if it does not cover up past the ejection port. A couple of makers build rigs just for the dot equipped pistol. Blade-Tech and Dale Fricke come to mind.
Have you shot a dot equipped pistol? One set up specifically as a defensive or fighting handgun? To say you would NEVER consider it, leads me to believe 1. you haven't, 2. you've already made up your mind.
Keeping an open mind is what leads to bigger and better things, otherwise, we'd all still be shooting capnballs, instead of them new, faincee metallic cartridge boolits.
Curious. I know the differences between red dot and lasers, but don't they have the same advantages and disadvantages?
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OK, regarding RDS' and lasers...
With a laser, when sighting on a target, the further away the target is the smaller your dot will be. Not so with an RDS, the "dot" or other reticle will keep it's size.
Most of the RDS' have the ability for auto adjust of brightness, the lasers do not.
Where the lasers excel is when shooting from obscure positions etc.
The lasers, with the exception of a Crimson trace style laser and similar need to be manually activated. The RDS will always be on unless a battery dies.
With a RDS and Back Up Iron Sights (BUIS) if your optic is dead the sights are right there in your field of view, if your laser is dead or you can't find the dot you may need to shift focus back to your sights.
Regarding both, I want to say that the RDS are less sensitive to cold weather than a green laser.
RDS' have the option for different size reticles, with the laser you're pretty much stuck with what you have.
Skill transfer. A RDS on your handgun and rifle will compliment each other in terms of sight/target acquisition.
Maintaining of zero. I'd have to look back over the reports, but I seem to recall lots of issues of Crimson Trace units loosing zero after prolonged firing. Optics like the RMR and Delta Point are pretty good about keeping zero. While we're talking about the Delta, in another thread it was mentioned that the Delta is not as robust as the RMR, I have it on good authority that Leupold is getting ready to make some changes to the Delta to beef it up.
That's about it for now. About 6-9 months from now I should have a G17 with Delta Point and Crimson Trace Unit and you can bet I'll be doing some exhaustive work on that set up and reporting back...
Also didn't look that big; but guess you'd have to get another holster, likely made with that sight in mind.
I just bought a great Sig 220 Elite Stainless - there's my boasting photos on another thread here. I see on Sig's site they sell a variety of red-dot sights of their own, reasonably priced for these sights: $199 to $299. Wonder how they are. One is VERY small - dunno if too small to see much.
Thanks everybody! This has been very educational - a lot I didn't know.
Walleye. Those are mainly rifle sights. The mini RDS optics are much smaller and simply require a dovetail be cut into the slide to me mounted.
This is a Docter red dot
"A first rate man with a third rate gun is far better than the other way around". The gun is a tool, you are the craftsman that makes it work. There are those who say "if I had to do it, I could" yet they never go out and train to do it. Don't let stupid be your mindset. Harryball 2013
Dots rock. Target focus is faster and more precise with the dot, makes moving targets easier, and eliminates the difficulties OF a front sight focus. Some older shooters I know got frustrated with irons but enjoy shooing dots.
I can see a time when this is standard gear for Leo, at least the specialty teams. Concealed carry, Im leaning not. The dots really shine at distances where self defense doesn't seem to happen.