This is a discussion on What is the Purpose of Using A Mini-Red Dot Sight On a Pistol: Combat? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Happypuppy I don't use high profile sights, they snag too easily. Yeah, thousand's of pistol users have this problem every day... I'm ...
Ditto on the snag issue...or is that non-issue?
I finally got to really use the dot today, my original Delta Point died on me and was replaced and today was the first time past sight in and general plinking and I really, really like the dot. Today was a hard match, lots of steel, lots of head shots and the red dot helped immensely.
I'm still pretty new to thee set up but I've been doing lots of dry practice and no issues. Where I did have some percieved issues was tracking the read dot...it was different and took a little time to get used to.
I have a severe cross dominance issue and the red dot totally negated it. Today was the most fun shooting I've had in a long time.
Now how does that translate into a defensive gun? I'm still putting the pieces in order and formulating that answer, but if I have a more precise sight picture and am getting better, faster hits, at greater distances in a game environment, I'm wiliing to bet that it will help in a real life incident as well.
Thee is a little bit of a learning curve, but its not as bad as I thought it would be. Most of the issues can be worked out in dry practice.
I can't say yet as to if I would equip ALL my carry guns like this, but I can see me trying some different optics and possibly getting several guns cut for the optic and BUIS installed and adding the optic later. I think the next gun (probably a G17) to under go this process will get a RMR so I can better compare the two.
To be continued.
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My TSD milled 26 and "26L":
What I really liked, was the single focal plane and being able to focus on the target and have the reticle "right there", no fuzzy target - crisp front sight - fuzzy rear, just perfect clean & crisp sight picture, transitions on small, moving targets was fabulous. Even on tight shots, like an IDPA head box diagonally bisected with 2" black tape; it was just like I want a bullet to go here, and there and bang bang there they were. It was on-demand accuracy/placement at a consistency that I've not had before. I've made some good shots with the P30 prior to the Delta Point being added, but today just seemed "easy". There is supposed to be some video of today's match, I'll post any of me when I get them.
On high profile sights snagging, I haven't had a problem. I carry my FN45T in a duty rig so it's pretty well clear of everything so snagging isn't a problem, but when I carry my FNS9 concealed (OWB) I haven't had any issues either.
Ditto with my red dots losing zero. I've used JPoints and Eotechs on rifles, and currently run two Trijicon RMR02s on pistols, and Millett Zoom dots on my patrol rifle and shotgun. Haven't had a problem with any of them losing zero, not even after battery changes.
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Smith & Wesson now offering factory milled M&P CORE pistols:
The Firearm Blog » S&W M&P Pro CORE (Competition Optics Ready Equipment)
My biggest concern would beHaving brackets vs direct connection will add a failure point to the set-up and won't be as strong.Through the use of removable brackets, consumers are able to simply install the corresponding mounting screws to achieve the precise fit and height required.
I guess it's not a huge concern as these are directed at competition.
My buddy and LGS owner just returned from Costa's class this weekend, and he will not shut up about how well his RMR'd g19 performed. From malf clearances, to reloads, to hitting very hard to hit targets from very hard to shoot from positions, the RMR was invaluble to him.
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Remarkably good thread folks. Between this and the data in the external links I learned a lot.
I think the price of these things should come down over time, hopefully with out compromising reliability.
I think it takes a relatively thick gun to mount the sight - it's as wide as the relatively thick Glock slide. At the moment I have 5 different guns that get carried depending on clothes, etc. I don't see ever putting one of these on the P238 or LCP. I'm not sure I want some guns with iron sights and some with optics. But thanks to this thread, at least I know a lot more than I did, and I'll try to keep up just in case something happens to make it look like a good idea.
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