This is a discussion on Traveling to Chicago... within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by zenger Wrigleyville is super safe i live on Fremont just like a Chicago block from the field. No problems just ignore the ...
Re: Hyatt, Lakeview/Wrigleyville and overall safety. I work a block from the Hyatt on Columbus and Wacker and frequent Wrigleyville a lot via cab and transit (over the last 15 years), so I'd like to think I have an informed opinion.
Both areas are very safe. Lakeview is full blown yuppie now. median household income around ballpark of 90K per year from a resident base that is very young (majority post-college to mid 30s). Pickpocketing is very rare, but keep wallet in front pocket to be safe. Crime rates in the area are extremely low. Not low by yuppie suburban levels, but low be nicer neighborhood in city of Detroit levels--especially when you consider the # of people out and about in the neighborhood. Don't worry about Cubs fans. Some are obnoxious, but generally speaking, they have grown so accustomed to losing violent tendencies aren't there. They're just happy to be at the ballpark drinking a beer.
I would actually encourage you to take the train to the ballpark (redline from State and Lake to Addison stop on the Howard extension). You're probably safer on the train than white knuckling it down Lake Shore Drive with a crazy cabbie (or just as bad, sitting in traffic going 5 mph).
Hyatt is close to the newish Millenium Park (safe walk west half block to Columbus, then South 2 blocks to Randolph @ start of Park near the Gehry band shell). Only thing to worry abt is panhandlers near Wacker out front of the hotel. Three most common scams near Hyatt over last 10-15 years:
-shoe shine guy (lemme show you what you need to put on that to make it look good). does one shoe for free, then you're forced to pay $10 for the other one, otherwise it looks like you're wearing mismatched shoes.
-my church bus broke down and I have elderly passengers waiting on bus guy. Need $20 for transport.
-Candy for sports teams kids (no badge, no legit solicitation).
If you want a Dog, Hot Doug's is worth the drive and the wait. Otherwise, Portillo's is close enough in River North. If you try to put ketchup on your dog, you will need DC. Hot Doug's coutesy of Anthony Bourdain here:
Note that the IL rules (see SoleShtr's post above) and the Chicago rules are different. One crucial point in the Chicago law:
"8-20-090 Interstate transportation of firearms.
It shall not be a violation of this chapter if a person transporting a firearm or ammunition while engaged in interstate travel is in compliance with 18 U.S.C.A. §926A. There shall be a rebuttable presumption that any person within the city for more than 24 hours is not engaged in interstate travel, and is subject to the provisions of this chapter."
Full law at: https://portal.chicagopolice.org/por...r-registry.pdf
Last edited by Mark IL NM; May 27th, 2012 at 01:31 AM.
I secure my firearm locked in case per law in my trunk at the Hobart Indiana exit when I fill my tank. I do the reverse upon leaving Illinois.
you don't seem to be residing in the real world. in the real world people don't rely on maybe you won't be arrested and prosecuted!
your response says that there is no case law that supports the OPINIONS you've been given.
Do you want to carry a gun based on MAYBE it's ok or MAYBE you won't be arrested.
until it is certain that I will not face ANY type of interaction with law enforcement because I am LEGALLY carrying a weapon I will not carry into such a place.
You can take your "legally unclear" opinions and shove it!
until IL and Chicago state that they will accept permits from other states I will not bring a gun there and I would never advice any else to bring a gun there.
do you know the fopa laws?
I don't think that you do because the law specifically say that you are legal to pass THROUGH a state, not stop in a state. try doing that in NYC or chicago and most towns in that part of IL and if found out I guarantee you will be arrested for gun possession.
if you want to play games with the law and suffer the consequences, feel free to do so, but don't offer your very poor advice for others to do so. Most of us have lives that include families that depend on us for their well being and spending even one night in jail just to try to prove a point is not part of what most of us want to do.
For the most part people who have concealed weapons permits are law abiding folk who just want to be allowed to carry their weapons and have as little interaction with law enforcement as possible. Carrying a weapon into a restricted place or state where the outcome of such an act is not certain is not something most concealed carriers want to do.
gamble with your own time and life, don't ask others to do the same.
I just moved back to Kalamazoo after living in Chicago for 4 years. Two of those years I lived in Wrigleyville off Clark. It's one of the safest areas in Chicago to be truthful. If you were going to a Sox game, I might worry for you, but there, nothing. All you're going to have to worry about is some out of town Cubs fan getting so drunk they vomit in front of you.
There was three reason I moved back from Chicago to Michigan:
1. The politics. Enough said.
2. Getting a FOID card is a pin in the a$$ and is counterproductive for us law abiding citizens. Funny how one of the strictest cities in the US for pistol ownership has one of the highest crime rates...
3. The traffic. Insane without doubt. Hated every moment I drove there.
Not sure if it was covered, but I did notice that someone mentioned their CCW had reciprocity for Ill in regards to the FOID. It does not, and I repeat DOES NOT. Please don't even carry unloaded even in a locked compartment. It was only the last 6 months I lived there that you could even legally own a pistol that was not manufactured and licensed prior to 1982.
If you have any info that contradicts this, then you would be right. Below is language taken from the FOID Act of 1968 (The Law) and an Illinois Supreme Court Ruling that supports it.
(430 ILCS 65/2) (from Ch. 38, par. 83-2)
Sec. 2. Firearm Owner's Identification Card required; exceptions.
(a) (1) No person may acquire or possess any firearm,
stun gun, or taser within this State without having in his or her possession a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued in his or her name by the Department of State Police under the provisions of this Act.
(2) No person may acquire or possess firearm
ammunition within this State without having in his or her possession a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued in his or her name by the Department of State Police under the provisions of this Act.
(b) The provisions of this Section regarding the possession of firearms, firearm ammunition, stun guns, and tasers do not apply to:
(10) Nonresidents who are currently licensed or registered to possess a firearm in their resident state;
This is the language taken directly from the Firearm Owners Identification Act (430 ILCS 65/)
430*ILCS*65/**Firearm Owners Identification Card Act.
To legally possess a firearm in Illinois the law states you must have a FOID Card. Non Residents
cannot obtain a FOID Card from Illinois. The Illinois Supreme Court ruled in Appellee, v.LEONARD
HOLMES, JR. that: “therefore, a valid permit or license from another state can substitute for the FOID
card requirement in section 24–1.6.