FL CCW

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    FL CCW

    My Florida CCW application:
    Everything is in order now, I had to resubmit the prints though, but they got them and say they are ok this time. I recently bought a .22LR in NY State, passed the BG check of course. So, BG check is the only thing left for me to pass in FL. I'm a bit paranoid though (since I'm from socialist Poland, now a US citizen). So FL is a shall-issue right? So as soon as I pass the BG check, I WILL get the CCW permit, right? I'm moving to FL in two weeks (Ft. Lauderdale). So once I'm there, there are no permits or other nonsense like that. I just walk into a store and, since I passed BG check before when buying a gun, they run a check, and I walk out with a handgun (or long gun), right???

    Sorry if my questions sound silly, but a concept of even looking at a handgun for someone coming from oppresive former soviet government, seams, well, foreign.

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    that all sounds totally correct.

    incidentally, what was wrong with your prints the first time?

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    echo5tango,
    NOLA => north of LA ???

    the prints were taken by a former LEO who is now running NYSTI (NY Security Training Institute). He said the prints should be good, but FL send a letter stating they MUST be taken by a LEO (former ain't good enough apparently). So I walked to local NYPD in chinatown (nightmare) and got printed. Now the prints are good.

    SO I am correct, no permit to purchase a handgun right? Just walk into store, pass BG check, show CCW, walk out packing ???

    Can't wait. I've been disarmed once before. Never again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by armedpolak View Post
    SO I am correct, no permit to purchase a handgun right? Just walk into store, pass BG check, show CCW, walk out packing ???

    Can't wait. I've been disarmed once before. Never again!
    You are correct. There is no "purchase permit" in Florida. There is a "cool-down" period for handguns, but you are exempt if you have a Concealed Weapons License.
    NOTE: Some south Florida counties or cities MAY have their own waiting period, though I'm not sure.
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    Sounds...

    like you are 'good to go'.
    The only thing you have to do now is a little waiting.

    Good Luck...and stay safe!

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    armedpolak,

    I hate to toss a monkey wrench into the works, but I think you may be setting yourself up for some problems.

    If you are applying for a non-resident permit, you may have a problem when you move to Florida. I don't think a resident can carry under an non-resident permit.

    But to apply for a resident permit, you must have been a resident for at least 90 days prior to applying.

    I would suggest you call (850) 245-5691 and talk to them directly. Explain your situation and get some guidance on the best way to proceed. They are easy to talk to and will work with you to decide the best way to proceed.

    Better to do that, than to accidentally put yourself in violation of the state's firearms law. That could result in being denied a permit, completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armedpolak View Post
    echo5tango,
    NOLA => north of LA ???

    the prints were taken by a former LEO who is now running NYSTI (NY Security Training Institute). He said the prints should be good, but FL send a letter stating they MUST be taken by a LEO (former ain't good enough apparently). So I walked to local NYPD in chinatown (nightmare) and got printed. Now the prints are good.

    SO I am correct, no permit to purchase a handgun right? Just walk into store, pass BG check, show CCW, walk out packing ???

    Can't wait. I've been disarmed once before. Never again!
    NOLA = New Orleans, Louisiana

    Thanks for the clarification on the prints ... I had mine taken a couple weeks ago and wanted to double check.

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    Florida usually takes the full 90 days to issue permits. Once you have a carry permit, you are no longer subject to the waiting period to buy pistols. Florida also has an awesome preemption law for firearms, so local communities may not create any restrictions beyond what the state has passed. Overall, Florida is one of the most friendly 2nd Amendment states in the union. Other than the hurricanes, I miss it.
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    I've read more than once that FL does not issue resident and non-resident permits; they issue CCW permits to residents and non-residents.

    There should be no difference between the two while in the state of FL. In fact, while you are supposed to notify the state of address changes, there is no automatic re-issue if you move into or out of the state.

    When I applied, I had been in-state for a couple of months, so I can't speak to the 90 day residentcy requirement, but I beleive that this is an error - the state has up to 90 days to process the application.
    I had my prints done electronically, and received my permit 12 days after mailing the application in January 2005.

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    The 90 day residency requirement only apples to resident aliens.

    As armedpolak is a US citizen (congratulations, by the way, that's really awesome), there is no residency requirement.

    Eligibility
    Eligibility Requirements

    You must be a citizen of the United States OR you must be deemed a lawful permanent resident alien by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS formerly INS).
    If you are not a citizen of the United States, you must submit documentation issued by the USCIS proving you are a permanent legal resident alien who has resided in your state of residence for at least 90 consecutive days prior to the date the application is submitted. Evidence of proof includes, but is not limited to:

    Utility bills; telephone, power, or cable
    Pay stubs or other documentation from your employer
    Credit card statement

    You must be 21 years of age or older.
    You must be able to demonstrate competency with a firearm.

    http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/eligible.html
    As noted above, if you have any questions, contact the Dept. of Agriculture at (850) 245-5691. They are very helpful folks, and can set you on the right path.

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    Matt,

    Thanks for correcting my mistake on that 90 day thing! But hey, I got the phone number right!

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    I was told there was a 3 day waiting period in Pasco CTY. BacSi
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    Yes, Medic, Pasco County does have a 3 day waiting period, but my reading of the law says a permit holder is exempt. I lawyer I am not, but read the following and see if you don't agree. ..

    790.33 covers the State's preemption over local law. It does state that counties may put a "waiting period" in place. But here's a cut-and-paste from the flsenate.gov web site of a section of 790.33:

    (d) The following shall be exempt from any waiting period:

    1. Individuals who are licensed to carry concealed firearms under the provisions of s. 790.06 or who are licensed to carry concealed firearms under any other provision of state law and who show a valid license;

    2. Individuals who already lawfully own another firearm and who show a sales receipt for another firearm; who are known to own another firearm through a prior purchase from the retail establishment; or who have another firearm for trade-in;
    As I read it, and as it was explained to me at a Pasco County gun shop where I bought my G23 and my wife's G26, the "wait" does not apply to a permit holder (me,) or my wife, since she was there to trade in a gun.

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    That Item 2 is a real find. There were a couple times where my local shop wanted me to wait the 3 days b/c I didn't have the CWP. I had purchased a couple different pistols from them previously. Now that I've got my CWP, I don't wait but I'll be printing that out and taking it along.

    Once you have your concealed permit, the only formality is the call-in. I've heard of denials recently, but it was a very common last name and I don't think they were using their SSN.
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    Welcome Aboard, you might want to take a gander at www.floridashootersnetwork.com .
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