This is a discussion on So is Wal-Mart Gun Friendly, or is it not? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by TedBeau Not meaning to bust your chops, but your point about no unlicensed firearms doesn't make sense, you might as well put ...
I live in South Texas and at every Wal-Mart I have been to there is signs in English and Spanish clearly stating that firearms are not permitted unless by someone who is licensed to carry one such as a CHL.
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Wal-marts Corporate policy is to comply with state law. Meaning if you can legally CC, or OC you can legally CC or OC in walmart.
However. Patronizing walmart is up to the GM's digression. Meaning if he doesnt want you to carry, or OC in his store he has the right to ask you to leave. If you do not do so you can be criminally trespassed for it.
But according to Corporate, they follow state law.
Now before folks string me up for being disrespectful, please allow me to say two things, then you may begin the flogging.
1. In my state (SD) these signs do not carry the force of law. I have looked into my state's position on these signs, and the worst that can happen is I'm asked to leave. I've been asked to leave only once before for carrying a firearm (I was carrying my Springfield.45XD in a BlackHawk holster under a t-shirt and evidently the holster printed me); I politely apologized and calmly left. No problem. So, my first point is to clarify that I'm not braking the law or trying to be a jerk.
2. I don't do this out of arrogance. IMO all gun-free-zones are public hazards one should have to demonstrate a need for and apply for an annual permit to maintain. Simply put, if the business doesn't have a 'need' to ban firearms, such as the presence of hazardous materials, such as a propain refueling station, then I place my safety above their right not to have firearms in their business. Also, I only do this on privat property which is subject to Public Accommodation laws, which automatically means I'm not talking about a residence (so don't bother asking). Consider it a sort of civil disobedience over something I genuinely believe is unjust.
Again, I don't ever cop an attitude. I otherwise act respectful and civil in every way, and if asked to leave, I do without a fuss.
You may begin the flogging.
Since we don't license specific firearms, there wouldn't be anything to present to you when you ask for proof, so you would have to reject everyone who carried into your business.23-7-8.6. List, record, or registry of privately owned firearms, owners of firearms, or holders of permits prohibited. No state agency, political subdivision, official, agent, or employee of any state agency or political subdivision may knowingly keep or cause to be kept any list, record, or registry of privately owned firearms or any list, record, or registry of the owners of those firearms, or any list, record, or registry of holders of permits to carry a concealed pistol.
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I would call their corporate number, not to get someone in trouble but to get some verification. I've been told on numerous occasions by the people who work there that their policy is to allow any legal means of carrying guns inside their store. If a Walmart is posted(which can be legally ignored here in WA) that means that likely some over zealous eager beaver manager is not following policy.
It may be that I'm not very attentive but I have never seen a NO FIREARMS sign in Michigan. Correct me if there are any you have seen.
WOW! I just noticed I have only 2 posts. I'll have to get more involved.
My closest Walmart has no signs on the front doors, but when I went to the check cashing/business area, I saw a "no firearms allowed" sign in that area. I am going to ask the manager what the deal is and report back on this.
Yesterday I noticed a new sign near the front door on the Walmart store in Las Cruces, NM. The SAMS Club has had a sign on a pole in the liquor department. We've asked the SAMS Club Manager to relocate the sign to the front door on several occasions and he agreed, but has yet to happen.