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    In a discussion with a co-worker that I am acquainted with (we talk several times a week in the cafeteria), he told me he was moving to a state and area in which I used to live. He was asking me about what kind of place it and the surrounding areas were. While the main area he will be living is nice, I informed him of some of the places to avoid and why. I shared some of my experiences and shared that if I were him I would consider getting his CHP and a firearm if he is considering going to the eastern and central rural areas of that state or to a neighboring urban area.

    He said that he has never had or fired a gun in his life and he is against guns. He then said, "I'm not a violent person." I replied, "I've been around guns my entire life and I'm not a violent person either. I've never shot anyone and hope I never am in a position to have to. But just because I'm not a violent person doesn't mean others we encounter aren't. We see it everyday here where we work. Hopefully all of mine will just be used to put holes in paper, but when it comes to protecting myself and my family, I want to be prepared in case I have no other choice."

    It was suddenly like a light went off. He started asking me questions about revolvers versus autos, carry laws, how to get a permit, etc. I told him that the best thing he could do is contact a range and get a good education and training before he does anything. Then he would be better informed as to what is right for him. By education and training I talked about not only physical training with firearms, but education with regards to the laws, situational awareness, etc. In the end, I told him that he is the only one that can decide if it is right for him or not. Having the education, training, permit, and hardware at least gives him the option if he so desires. I said, "Buying a gun no more makes you defended than buying a piano makes you a musician. You have to have the knowledge and ability and then practice."

    In the end, he thanked me repeatedly for helping him develop a healthier perspective on firearms. He said he would like to return to our facility to work in a few years after his training in the new state is complete and he wants to keep in touch. I gave him my e-mail address and told him to have safe travels and I hope to see him again.

    I thought this was a pretty good outcome. Whether he decides to do it himself or not, hopefully he has a better understanding of those who choose to exercise their right to keep and bear arms and has a better perspective on it. That's the main thing.
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    Well done! Seems you at least had an open-minded person to deal with. Open their eyes, point them in the right direction, then let them make up their own minds.
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    Good job I hope he does follow up with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BugDude View Post
    I replied ... "I've never shot anyone and hope I never am in a position to have to. But just because I'm not a violent person doesn't mean others we encounter aren't. Hopefully all of mine will just be used to put holes in paper, but when it comes to protecting myself and my family, I want to be prepared in case I have no other choice."


    If the simple simplicity of that reality didn't do the trick, then nothing would have. Great job on helping a rational person become a practical realist about an important decision of safety and security each person must answer.
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    If your co-worker uses your advice correctly, he may just call and thank you for saving his life...one never knows.

    Hey BugDude, I'm finally retiring for the second time, followed by a hip replacement (the warranty must be up on this old body) in about six weeks...we'll have to cross paths for lunch some time.

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    you did well to send him off with some insight about doing vs knowing.

    amazing how simple guns are that people with little or no experience have successfully defended themself with them,
    ...well, those we read about

    for the most of us, some formal instruction is needed.

    you hit on all the high points and he will be fine if he folllows through.
    just add in some form of martial arts for a season or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    If your co-worker uses your advice correctly, he may just call and thank you for saving his life...one never knows.

    Hey BugDude, I'm finally retiring for the second time, followed by a hip replacement (the warranty must be up on this old body) in about six weeks...we'll have to cross paths for lunch some time.

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    I've passed through your neck of the woods a few times lately coming and going with my FIL's illness. PM me and maybe next Saturday or the following I can drive up for a range session and lunch or dinner. I'm baching it for the next few weeks, so I've got my get out and about shoes on. Let me know.
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    Great job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BugDude View Post
    "Buying a gun no more makes you defended than buying a piano makes you a musician. You have to have the knowledge and ability and then practice."
    BugDude, you WILL be quoted
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    Great job!


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    Well done!
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    good work, nicely done.

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    Bugdude,
    To quote an old tv show, "you make my heart soar like an eagle!"

    Winning hearts and minds is what it's all about!

    One rational person at a time, we can change peoples outlook about whether those of us who carry are vigilantes looking to "put bodies on our guns"; or just ordinary folks who want to try to save ourselves and our loved ones from harm in an ever increasingly violent world.

    Great job!
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