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    Good - Seattle Mayor Cracking Down on Illegal Guns

    After a recent killing spree engaged by a psychopath with a concealed carry permit , the Mayor and others could have gone down a anti-second amendment path, but instead chose to crack down on illegal guns and remind gun owners that a popular way for the bad guys to get guns is by stealing them...

    Mayor McGinn » The Reader – Cracking down on illegal guns

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    The problem is that he and the other mayors listed consider all guns not in the hands of the military, the police or their security details to be illegal guns.
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    It will always be a constant struggle. I just happen to believe my life is worth protecting at the expense of a criminal seeking to cause me harm, even though many elected officials would rather protect criminals at the expense of my safety. And because we value innocent life more than a punk thug, we are considered the haters. Really, how messed up has this country become?
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    he is going to use the feds to help...that means that they get federal time instead of state time which means TV, better cells, more programs and better medical care and less state money to achieve all of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    The problem is that he and the other mayors listed consider all guns not in the hands of the military, the police or their security details to be illegal guns.
    There are no other mayors listed, and can you provide some type of support for the statement that Mayor McGinn considers all guns not in the hands of the military, the police, or their security details to be illegal guns?

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    Cracking Down on Illegal Guns
    Going after illegal weapons is good, just so long as the bureaucrats leave upstanding people and their legal activities and items alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandyone View Post
    There are no other mayors listed, and can you provide some type of support for the statement that Mayor McGinn considers all guns not in the hands of the military, the police, or their security details to be illegal guns?
    McGinn is a member of MAIG Mayors Against Illegal Guns - Coalition Members
    That should tell you right there which guns he believes are illegal- citizen's
    - no carry reciprocity
    - denial of purchase and carry without due process through the "terror watch list"
    - against the ATF Reform Act, keeping in place the all-or-nothing punishments for FFLs who make minor, inadvertent violations
    - opposed Boren Amendment which would have stopped the required reporting of long gun sales in SW states- which resulted from Fast and Furious...

    and so on.

    I would be very wary of what is proposed as 'reasonable' to fight illegal guns. The method is often to reduce the availability of legal guns.
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    Thousands of years ago our ancestors discovered that they could use a rock to crack open shells and other things to get to food,they then realised if they used that rock against an attacking enemy they had an advantage,they then learned that throwing the rocks allowed them an even better advantage,they then discovered that using a thick branch or dinosaur leg or arm bone made a great club,then discovered sharpened sticks for spears,then bows and arrows,then stone knives,then bronze and steel swords then etc.
    Even if they took away all the guns criminals would still find a weapon to do what criminals do and that is steal and rob from society,the only way to defend against criminals is at the very least level the playing field by allowing law abiding citizens the ability to carry a firearm and then if they are put in a situation of self defense allowing them the right to use deadly force no matter where that threat pops up
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Going after illegal weapons is good, just so long as the bureaucrats leave upstanding people and their legal activities and items alone.
    And what exactly is an "illegal" weapon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarisataka View Post
    McGinn is a member of MAIG Mayors Against Illegal Guns - Coalition Members
    That should tell you right there which guns he believes are illegal- citizen's
    - no carry reciprocity
    - denial of purchase and carry without due process through the "terror watch list"
    - against the ATF Reform Act, keeping in place the all-or-nothing punishments for FFLs who make minor, inadvertent violations
    - opposed Boren Amendment which would have stopped the required reporting of long gun sales in SW states- which resulted from Fast and Furious...

    and so on.

    I would be very wary of what is proposed as 'reasonable' to fight illegal guns. The method is often to reduce the availability of legal guns.
    That is some useful stuff there. Thanks for elaborating. (and I'm not being a smart arse)

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    A BLUEPRINT FOR FEDERAL ACTION ON ILLEGAL GUNS:
    REGULATION, ENFORCEMENT, AND BEST PRACTICES TO COMBAT ILLEGAL GUN TRAFFICKING
    RECOMMENDATIONS FROM MAYORS AGAINST ILLEGAL GUNS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarisataka View Post
    McGinn is a member of MAIG Mayors Against Illegal Guns - Coalition Members
    That should tell you right there which guns he believes are illegal- citizen's
    - no carry reciprocity
    - denial of purchase and carry without due process through the "terror watch list"
    - against the ATF Reform Act, keeping in place the all-or-nothing punishments for FFLs who make minor, inadvertent violations
    - opposed Boren Amendment which would have stopped the required reporting of long gun sales in SW states- which resulted from Fast and Furious...

    and so on.

    I would be very wary of what is proposed as 'reasonable' to fight illegal guns. The method is often to reduce the availability of legal guns.
    And a bit more info.

    As both a candidate and a mayor, McGinn supported his predecessor's attempts to ban all guns from parks and other public places.[67] After the King County Superior Court overturned the gun ban, for being in violation of state law, McGinn petitioned for the state legislature to change the law.
    Michael McGinn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarisataka View Post
    McGinn is a member of MAIG Mayors Against Illegal Guns - Coalition Members
    That should tell you right there which guns he believes are illegal- citizen's
    - no carry reciprocity
    - denial of purchase and carry without due process through the "terror watch list"
    - against the ATF Reform Act, keeping in place the all-or-nothing punishments for FFLs who make minor, inadvertent violations
    - opposed Boren Amendment which would have stopped the required reporting of long gun sales in SW states- which resulted from Fast and Furious...

    and so on.

    I would be very wary of what is proposed as 'reasonable' to fight illegal guns. The method is often to reduce the availability of legal guns.

    mayor mcginn, like mayor nickles before him, has been anti-gun in virtually all of his actions and statements about firearms. like DC member Sarisataka, i would also be VERY wary of any gun regulations/rules that came out of his office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandyone View Post
    After a recent killing spree engaged by a psychopath with a concealed carry permit , the Mayor and others could have gone down a anti-second amendment path, but instead chose to crack down on illegal guns and remind gun owners that a popular way for the bad guys to get guns is by stealing them...

    Mayor McGinn » The Reader – Cracking down on illegal guns
    So........................, he is worried about being elected again..... ROFLMAO And he is blessing himself that he is not an elected official in Tacoma or around Fort Lewis.... ROFLMAO. He is a Bloomberg Turd! I think the rest of the WA voting base has had enough, and will laugh at his 'outcry to appease' his base of really strange Progressive Bean Sprout Seattle People (the minority I think, now) just to look like he is concerned.

    The rest of the State of WA and the Majority of the Elected Legislature will just, also LOL at him. - My Opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarisataka View Post
    McGinn is a member of MAIG Mayors Against Illegal Guns - Coalition Members
    That should tell you right there which guns he believes are illegal- citizen's
    - no carry reciprocity
    - denial of purchase and carry without due process through the "terror watch list"
    - against the ATF Reform Act, keeping in place the all-or-nothing punishments for FFLs who make minor, inadvertent violations
    - opposed Boren Amendment which would have stopped the required reporting of long gun sales in SW states- which resulted from Fast and Furious...

    and so on.

    I would be very wary of what is proposed as 'reasonable' to fight illegal guns. The method is often to reduce the availability of legal guns.
    Just to reinforce, when the mayors of New York, LA, San Fran, DC Chicago are members of MAIG, then you know the stated mission of MAIG is horse crap. Here is the link to MAIGs "About The Coalition" page. http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns....ut/about.shtml They really sound nice but as I said, just as an example, when the mayors of the above cities are members, then I don't for a minute believe the tripe they put on public display. Disarm and distract and confound the enemy while we prepare a flanking attack. All of this stuff is just for public consumption and for the media to feed on.

    You know, I truly wish we could all just get along but the liberal side is bound and determined to force me to live my life the way they want me to live it. And I hate to say it, but there are busybody conservatives out there too that believe they know better how people should live. Follow the Constitution and we can all get along just fine.
    Last edited by boutaswell; June 20th, 2012 at 05:31 AM. Reason: Because I left the link out. Dohhh!!!
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