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Decocker and one in the pipe
Thoughts concerning the carrying a decocker and having one round chambered. Is this proper or safe?
Thanks.
Not an issue it is the way it is designed.
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Not sure of the make or model that you're talking about but hopefully you're talking about something with an actual decocker. I have a S&W 4006 and it has a decocker. If what you have is like that then yes, ok to decock with one in the pipe. When the lever is turned to decock, the internal workings that transfer the energy from the hammer to the firing pin are rotated out of the way and the hammer is blocked from being able to strike the firing pin.
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Little bit lacking here. I carried a P89DC for a few years. I loved the DC although I'd much rather have the SA trigger pull...I do think the DC has a good advantage for many reasons. I always carry with one in the pipe. Proper and safe pretty much depend on you.Originally Posted by DUSTYNEVADA
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so far as i know, no reasonably popular gun designed in the last 50 years will accidentally fire if the hammer is lowered using the decocking lever. i know this sounds a bit like weasel wording, but i'm trying to be accurate. every manufacturer that i know of who makes a gun with a decocker STRONGLY recommends that the decocker ALWAYS be used to lower the hammer. the reason is that with the trigger NOT pulled and the decocker operated, there is some mechanism to keep the hammer from contacting the firing pin as the hammer comes forward. the exact design varies from maker to maker, and sometimes from model to model. if you pull the trigger, which you would have to do in order to lower the hammer without using the decocker, you will disable that safety mechanism, and if you lose control of the hammer, and it falls, the gun WILL fire.
S&W, Beretta, Ruger, Sig-Sauer - all their hammer-fired guns with decockers will work in this manner. ALWAYS USE THE DECOCKER. it's perfectly safe. nevertheless, a person holding a gun should keep the gun pointed in a safe direction at ALL times, even when decocking.
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I've grown up firing the beretta 92fs and carry a fullsize px4 both have the decocker/ saftey. I'm not exatcly sure of your question but the way I use it is that I always use the decocker to drop the hammer. I always carry with one in the chamber and I make a habit of engaging the decocker / safety when holstering and then take it off once securely holstered and carry it with one in the chamber and the safety/decocker off. If asking if it's safe to use the decocker with one in the chamber I've not heard of any malfunction with it (not saying it's never happend) but as always safety first the gun is always pointed in a safe direction when engaging the decocker.
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Typically speaking , decockers such as Beretta's have :
1. You can decock with one in the chamber, and it should never do anything other than lower the hammer and refuse to fire until you disengage the decocker.
2. All mechanical devices can fail. Although I've never heard of a decocker failing ever.... there's that one time. So, when I decock mine ... I always point the muzzle at something that if it should fire... it won't be a problem if it did fire.
It is designed to carry with the decocker engaged. However, at times... I will flick the decocker off once it's been decocked and the hammer down.... so that if I drew and wanted to fire, I could , and not have to deal with disengaging it first. However, I'm sure Beretta and others would greatly discourage that. Most guns I have , have no safety, etc. on them, and I would treat it in the same manner as I do them if I do that.
Hope that helps.
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Unless your gun is one where your decocker lever is also a safety, Bersa and some others, DO NOT carry with the hammer cocked.
As long as you use the decocker and lower the hammer, it's safe and proper.
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Please review this thread: http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/...d-chamber.html
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