This is a discussion on Us and them... within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by oakchas tac... You're right about a bit of trial and error... and maybe a miscut he and there... But as in all ...
It's gotta be who you are, not a hobby. reinman45
"Is this persons bad behavior worth me having to kill them over?" Guantes
Flying a sim is not the same as flying the real deal. It's quite possible that they might crash the sim, but not the real plane. Sims tend to be much more sensitive, really.
All that said....
It could be worse.
"The History of our Revolution will be one continued Lye from one end to the other."
When I was really into practical shooting, I shot about 100,000 round yearly. Now a 10,000 rounds keep me nicely in the game.
As to the elitists, I'm a regular guy that has shot a lot and competed a lot and experienced a lot. Some prefer woodworking, I prefer shooting. What is wrong with that?
"People who take an Internet handle of a great warrior, are usually the first to go fetal when crunch time comes." - Me
Man, go to work for 12 hrs and look what I miss...
Someone asked what have you learned in training:
1. I didn't know what I didn't know
2. Getting off the line of fire (and not the single side step L/R taught at most classes) will most likely keep you from being shot
3. It is possible to return accurate fire while busting off the X
4. Point shooting works
5. Precise aimed fire works
6. It is possible to bring a knife to a gunfight and prevail
7. You may very well have to go 'hands-on' with someone to create enough distance to even access your weapon
8. Having a weapon (primary, BUG or knife) accessible by your off-hand may be a life saver
9. Even though I live in a quiet small town, bad guys can drive to here
10. Carry your gun everywhere you are able, and carry spare ammo
11. Your situational awareness can fail you
12. Reality has a way of biting you
13. I know what it is like to shoot from a restaurant booth, from on the ground, from and around vehicles
There are other things I'll think of later, I'm sure.
I have never taken a Sniper, CQB, Small Unit Patrolling, etc. class.
I have taken Close-Range, Extreme Close-Range, and 0-5Ft Gunfighting classes. Courses that are geared to the very type of encounters that 'statistically' the average person may find themselves in. I do plan to take a tac-med class sometime in the near future.
Yes, I pay for classes out of my own pocket, I shoot often, I practice accessing my gun and do a lot of dry fire and Airsoft practice in my garage and backyard.
I make zero apologies for trying to be the best I can be for my family and myself.
There have been many "snarkie" comments made here. No one has been immune, but yours has seemed to risen to a "snarkie deluxe" Almost a art form. The degrading comments you have made have seemed to be done to get a emotional negative response, which you have been very successful in getting. My opinion is....do what you think is right for you.....I will do what is right for me....others will do what is right for them. I will not insult you for "not doing enough" training....but I SURE won't insult anyone for taking their training more seriously than you do. So there....I have explained myself more than I really needed to. Now, how about dropping the "prods" to get this discussion hiked up to a out and out "us against them" war. I am sure you know that being a human...you are not always right.
A woman must not depend on protection by men. A woman must learn to protect herself.
Susan B. Anthony
A armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one has to back it up with his life.
Ah ha! Found one! This isn't the one I took, but it's from the same blizzard on the same highway. Inexperience at it's finest.
I see alot of semi trucks in that pic. Seems kind of ignorant to call them inexperienced.
Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast.
Smooth draw? In less than a second hitting the target twice in chest and one in the head, or one of those five-second smooth draws from five yards to an ATC-09?
Are you seriously promoting that after all your proficient basic training you aim at the bad guys buttocks?
More over, he has challenged everyone willing to train and master the gun with numerous snide comments and questions (and scenarios), with is buddy suggesting that all of us -even those who have been in the harms way for twenty years for our country - are merely freaking 'ninjas.' How derogatory is that?
I spent years in Japan practicing Judo and Aikido and some time Taekwondo in Korea (Krav maga in Israel, ect.). I never saw a Ninja. How does wanting to study with Larry Vickers make me one?
Happy 4th of July.