good post DaveH. I agree.
Another thing I would like to add, is that in reality, I think we are all on the same team here. I didn't perceive Harryballs thread to be an intentionally decisive thread. There are many different variables that we all bring to the table that influence our drive and attitude for training issues associated with carrying a defensive sidearm.
These cause emotions to run high, and sometimes it causes any man who's got a pair to bristle up if they feel their opinion is attacked by another. Many things can be hidden or taken wrong, or lost entirely in reading words. Then the snowball effects kick in.
Perhaps, and in all probability, if we were all gathered around a campfire, or other social setting, the humor or tongue- in- cheek responses would not become the hard lines they are taken for here. The candor, facial expressions and overall personal interaction would allow a more social, lighter conversation.
Also age, and environmental influences, coupled with experiences play a huge role in our decisions on the subject.
For me, as I get older, something's get less important, and others more important. Simply put, our priorities in life have a tendency to change. Seasoning has a way of changing our tastes for everything.
As a past and long time student of martial arts, which covers a wide variety of skills if one properly defines it as " war arts", I have learned that we all peak out. Eventually, our physcical skills deteriorate but our knowledge continues to go up.
At some point they cross. I don't know of anyone that has crossed that decline of physical capability, and continued rise of wisdom that would trade the latter for the first, given the choice.
So i think we are all in agreement, just coming from different places in our lives. No right, no wrong, just where we are at right now.
So, I apologize if I have spoken harshly, or offended anyone during the duration of this thread. It was not my intent, but I do reserve the right to get "bristled up" on occasion, but I don't take anything personally.
But as the warrior part of everyone declines, we are left with our knowledge and wisdom. So be it.