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    CC and "Green" card?

    What are your guys thoughts on carrying and having medical marijuana card. Its strictly for medical use I have arthitis in my back and I'm in pain everyday I would use it primarily at night but on occasion in the morning when pain is really bad.. But what were to happen if ii had my gun on me pity in public or had to use it (hopefully not) would it be considered "under the influence?" I dont currently smoke because I dont have my card to do it partially but would it be worth it? Or would I not carry my gun if were to smoke? what are your guys thoughts?

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    CC, alcohol, medical marijuana, hamburger, ice water.... etc, doesnt matter to me, its all in how and when you use it.

    Yes, I believe that if you have used it for any reason, you are under the influence. YMMV
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    Ever heard that booze and guns are a sorry mix? I expect that weed and guns ought to run about the same.

    Never messed with weed (not kidding), but I've seen many stoned people. Not pretty.
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    My fathers a disabled veteran and was curious about the same kinda thing but instead of weed, his legal pain meds from the VA. He asked a state trooper about it and said as long as it was legally prescribed to him, there was nothing to worry about. Not sure if it's any help but that's my 2 cents.
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    At least you will be mellowed out and not easily angered:)
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    But hungry........

    I think you need to look at AZ law very carefully. Here are a couple of resources:

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    While the MM card is legal in some states,it seems that the people tend to forget once they cross state lines the state they are in may not recognize their card,so if you have a CHL and are carrying both a gun and marijuana outside your state and get stopped by the Police,you are probably going to get arrested for not only drug charges,but having a gun which IIRC is a felony
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    I believe those with chronic pain....like arthritis...can benefit from the medical use of pot. I don't think the "harm" it does would be any worse than some of the prescriptive pain medication give for the same thing. I don't mean smoking it like that guy from "Fast Times at Ridgemont High", but titrated to desired effect. I have known people who have done this and they are able to function much better than the doses of pain medication they would need to take for the same effect.

    Many things are bad if used in excess, but can be beneficial if used with common sense.

    When my father was going through chemotherapy for cancer and lost all appetite, one of my brothers had some pot cookies made for him. It cut down on his vomiting (natural effect from it is to stop vomiting) and gave him enough appetite to keep going. Only problem is he didn't tell Mom and she ate one. Had to talk her through that one as she wasn't expecting that feeling from a cookie. She knew it was more than a "sugar rush". But it did help Dad making him more comfortable also. I think there is a legit use for it.
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    I'm not sure what the good State of Arizona thinks about marijuana and firearms but personally my thoughts are that marijuana, like alcohol, impairs your decision making ability. If it were me, I would treat it like I do alcohol: spark a doobie, put the gun away.

    I probably wouldn't drive around with a bag of dope either. Federal law trumps state law so if they really want to get you, there's a case to be made. Of course it's highly unlikely the Feds would waste their time on you unless you happen to be on big O's enemy list for selective enforcement. Then there's the recent development where the current administration doesn't even respond to Arizona State and local Leo's inquiries... Maybe I should back off the caffeine, please just disregard my partisan ramblings.
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    It will probably be viewed the same as any other prescription pain killer. If it's a drug that alters your thought processes and judgement, your probably better off not carrying while using it.
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    CC, alcohol, medical marijuana, hamburger, ice water.... etc, doesnt matter to me, its all in how and when you use it.
    That's pretty much my take, that it's whether you're unduly influenced or impeded by a thing. Shouldn't matter whether that's having just woken up from sleep and hence haven't wrapped your head around the situation yet, or something you've ingested/imbibed.

    Smoking, drinking, bad burritos and whatnot aren't a problem, per se. But impaired judgement is, no matter the cause. Just don't expect all to understand if you're involved in the use of deadly force while stoned or drunk. One thing to consider is that it's entirely possible, if it comes to a self-defense situation in which you've used deadly force, your use of such substances will also be put on trial. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6, as they say, but it's something to think about.
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    You would probably be less prone to violence!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb327 View Post
    You would probably be less prone to violence!

    Except the damage one would do to a package of Twinkies or bag of Doritos.
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    I think the you would only have to worry about it if you had to actually shoot someone in self defense.

    Any lawyer or DA worth his salt could have a field day with the fact that you shot someone when you were stoned. It would all come down to what the jury thought about it. If you had some stoners on there,you might be OK. If not, your ability to make a rational decision and how that is perceived by them could be your undoing.
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    The legal precedent for impairment while "under the influence" has long been established. If you're carrying (presumably legally) and have weed on you (prescribed or otherwise), and you come to the attention of your local LEO's, I would venture a guess that you will end up explaining your actions to a judge, which is always a crap-shoot. Just my $.02.
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