Encounter with the N Richland Hills (TX) Police this morning...

Encounter with the N Richland Hills (TX) Police this morning...

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    Encounter with the N Richland Hills (TX) Police this morning...

    On my way to work this morning, minding my own business (I most certainly was NOT playing chess on my phone while driving)... and I see a motorcycle cop pass me, then pull a u-turn and flip on the lights. He looked around at me right before he turned around, so I knew he was coming for me. I immediately pulled off onto a side street and turn on the hazards (this is not my first time.. by a long shot, haha). At this point, I honestly have no idea why I am getting pulled over, but as he approaches my driver side window I very calmly say:

    "Good morning officer, I would like to let you know that I have a CHL and I do have a firearm on me." I hand him my DL, CHL, and military ID. He looks my IDs over, asks me a few questions related to my military service (MOS, how long I've been in, my current status - I politely answer all the questions in short form). He then asked me what I was carrying... I stated an M&P 9mm compact, he then says the following:

    "I appreciate you carrying, you'd be surprised how many CHL holders don't bother to carry their firearm with them." I was rather surprised, but kind of just chuckled and said that I pretty much always have mine on me (an obvious understatement). He then thanks me for my service AND for carrying my firearm (again), hands me back my IDs & insurance card and says "have a good day Sergeant... oh, and get your rear driver's side taillight replaced - its out." I return the same to him, and that was it. Overall it was a very good encounter (especially for not getting a ticket!). Just wanted to share the experience with you guys, especially the newer CCers.

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    Cool story - Thanks

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    In the departments I worked for when I was a patrolman an overwhelming majority felt the same way about CC Permits. In fact, I often would be asked about what gun I carried, ammo used, etc., and sometimes asked recommendations. I always felt that CC Holders helped lower violent crime by just being out in the public (which they do). I also felt that one day a CC Holder could possibly save my life or that of another officer if things "turned south" for one of us in a public setting. So for him to thank you for carrying is not a surprise to me personally. I have always supported CC Permits, so much so that I got mine while still a cop. I suppose a whole lot of cops feel the same everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostMaker View Post
    In the departments I worked for when I was a patrolman an overwhelming majority felt the same way about CC Permits. In fact, I often would be asked about what gun I carried, ammo used, etc., and sometimes asked recommendations. I always felt that CC Holders helped lower violent crime by just being out in the public (which they do). I also felt that one day a CC Holder could possibly save my life or that of another officer if things "turned south" for one of us in a public setting. So for him to thank you for carrying is not a surprise to me personally. I have always supported CC Permits, so much so that I got mine while still a cop. I suppose a whole lot of cops feel the same everywhere.
    I've always kinda felt the same way - military personnel and police officers are in many ways the same thing - just different AORs. With my training and skill level, if I saw a bad situation for a cop, I don't think I would hesitate to help out (including getting involved in a firefight). Not looking to be a hero or anything, but I think its part of the mindset that many of us in the military have. When you hear lead flying, the training just kicks in. I have asked officers before how they feel about CC, Texas' castle law, use of deadly force, etc.; but I have never actually been thanked by an officer for carrying... that just kinda took me by surprise. But it was a very pleasant surprise. It was a good encounter in many ways.

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    Thanks for sharing. It's nice to hear the stories with a positive resolution. Sometimes it feels like we only get to hear about the bad ones.

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    You are in the military, going to work and carrying? You must have an understanding installation commander. Oh and thank you for your service.
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    How would the officer know you had a taillight out if he was coming toward you?

    Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, and if so I apologize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief1297 View Post
    You are in the military, going to work and carrying? You must have an understanding installation commander. Oh and thank you for your service.
    I am guard. Was heading to my civilian job. I just got off of active orders about 3 weeks ago though, was out in SC for a few months for training.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandyone View Post
    How would the officer know you had a taillight out if he was coming toward you?

    Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, and if so I apologize.
    He was on a motorcycle and saw in his rear view mirror right after he passed me, then turned around to see. We were passing a cross street that has a big dip in it so everyone slows down to about 5-10mph. I watched him in my rear view mirror as he passed by me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief1297 View Post
    You are in the military, going to work and carrying? You must have an understanding installation commander. Oh and thank you for your service.

    No kidding! In my 20 years I never had an IC that would allow CC. All personally owned weapons on post always had to be locked in the arms room. A lot of guys left theirs with the married guys that lived off post though.

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    One thing about Tx is that every car can have a legally concealed gun in it without the Driver having a CHL as long as they can legally own a handgun,so I think our LEO's have come to accept it and once they make initial contact can get a feeling if your a GG or somethings sketchy
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    Quote Originally Posted by OperatorJ View Post
    I am guard. Was heading to my civilian job. I just got off of active orders about 3 weeks ago though, was out in SC for a few months for training.


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    It's all good. I was not trying to be a pain but was trying to let you know in a subtle way that you may want to change your words if you may have been carrying on a federal installation.
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