Are You Too Stupid To Conceal Carry?

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    Concealed Carry Considerations

    I wrote an article on concealed carry for a major gun blog site and since it was posted there, I've received a lot of great feedback. I've tried to incorporate as much of the constructive criticism as I can and here is version two.

    Let me know what you think.


    Concealed Carry Considerations

    With the boom in firearm ownership in recent years, there are a lot of new gun owners, taking advantage of their rights as citizens of the United States of America to “keep and bear arms.” But carrying a concealed firearm is an awesome responsibility. Let’s take a few minutes to consider some things you need to think through very carefully before you decide to carry a concealed weapon. There are legal, ethical, moral and competency implications.

    Here are just some of the things you need to be aware of:

    Legal Implications

    If you carry a gun, you need to be aware of, and prepared to accept the legal consequences, whatever they may be. Are you willing to go through the trouble and expense – both financially and emotionally – of being arrested, charged and tried if you have to use your firearm? If not, leave your firearm at home. Are you ready to deal with whatever might come your way when it comes to encounters with law enforcement officials who may or may not understand and respect your state and local carry laws? Keep in mind that when you carry a firearm you are doing so for defensive purposes. The very concept of defense is to do what is necessary to stop a threat to ones own life or the life of another.

    Ethical Implications

    When you take on the responsibility of being an armed citizen, you also assume a greater level of ethical responsibility for every aspect of your behavior while packing. You don’t pick fights. You don’t respond to aggressive comments or gestures by going for your gun. You never go looking for trouble. You don’t – ever – drink while armed. And you never brandish it or joke around about carrying concealed. Concealed means concealed…in every possible sense. If you can’t conceal it, do not carry it. You aren’t trying to impress anyone by carrying. Your ethical posture has to be above reproach when carrying. And, don’t get dragged into a conversation about “shooting to kill.” You do not shoot to kill, you shoot to stop the thread and to defend yourself or others in a true emergency.

    Moral Implications

    Are you mentally prepared to defend yourself? If not, the gun should stay in your safe. If you think you are just going to pull the gun out and wave it around to scare somebody off, don’t carry. If the gun comes out of its holster, you must already have decided to stop a threat. You are using your gun defensively, that is, you are shooting to stop the threat of immanent bodily harm to you, to your loved ones, or an innocent party who is being attacked in danger of being killed. Are you prepared to do whatever it takes to stop a threat and to defend yourself? Have you thought long and hard about what that means? Are you willing to see what a bullet will do to a human body? People don’t always just fall over dead like in the movies. You have to prepare yourself for the emotional trauma of gravely wounding or killing another human being, but remember, your goal is never to kill anyone, it is to stop a threat. Drawing your weapon is the last resort in a truly life, or death, situation, where you must act to defend yourself, or others.

    Competency Implications

    If you are going to carry a concealed weapon, you need to be rigorous about safe, competent gun handling. Your gun is always loaded – or it better be. That means you must never ever, under any circumstance, draw it while carrying unless you’re truly in a life or death situation.

    You do not pull it out to show to your buddies. You never point the weapon at anyone, which is referred to as "covering" somebody. Your finger should not be on the trigger, but "indexed" or simply lying against the firearm, ready to move to the trigger, but not on the trigger or in the trigger guard. You simply do not “play around” with your concealed firearm. It goes in the holster and never comes out, unless absolutely necessary.

    And you need to be fully trained in the use of your firearm. Find a competent instructor and take a class. Better yet, take several classes. Just as if you want to get to Carnegie hall, you need to practice, practice and practice some more. You owe it to yourself to get in as much range time with your carry gun as you possibly can. If you aren’t willing to master all aspects of handling your concealed carry firearm, don’t strap it on.

    These are just some of the things you will need to consider before you take on the responsibility of concealed carry. Yes, it’s your right, but you need to exercise that right legally, ethically, morally and competently or you’ll hurt the cause of those that do.

    And finally, here is a good “creed” for a person carrying concealed to live by:

    If I draw my gun from it's holster, I have decided that lethal force is imminently necessary to prevent or end the use of force, which I reasonably believe will cause grave bodily harm or death against me. The ultimate fate of my adversary is not my goal, is not even my consideration. I must cause them to cease the actions that I believe are deadly to me. Nothing more. I do not shoot to kill. I shoot to make them stop.

    Take care, and stay safe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by livewire9880 View Post
    I think the intent of that statement was "don't draw unless you're prepared to fire", not that if you draw you have to fire.

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    I think your statement says it better but this is not the first time I've seen it written or implied that one does not draw unless they are GOING to fire.. which I believe s a stupid statement and a scary train of thought. Prepared to fire is a good choice of words.

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    For the audience you are reaching for, you might have to add a sentence or two explaning having your finger indexed.

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    Its a pretty good generalization of conceal carry. To be honest its just scratching the surface.....
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    What gun blog site was it written for? I only found it posted on Warrior Talk. I didn't comment their because they all feel like I do about it and nothing else needed said.

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    It appears, based on the context of the article, the author is primarily posing questions about whether most people are aware and have thought about the seriousness of carrying. I believe he may be too dumb to know the difference in "stupid" and "ignorant". The article, in my opinion, should have been: Are You too Ignorant to Conceal Carry?


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    When I see interviews "on the street" I wonder if most of the nation is too stupid to vote. I'm sure during the founding father times the percent of stupidity was less than now, but not much. And yet they didn't qualify the 2nd amendment with a test for stupidity. Was that a mistake on their part or just something we have to live with in a free society?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    Are You Too Stupid To Conceal Carry?
    No, just too big. 6'5" & 340# would take a heck of a holster and cover garment. Even then, you might walk a bit lopsided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gliderguy View Post
    For the audience you are reaching for, you might have to add a sentence or two explaning having your finger indexed.

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    Already taken care of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinApple View Post
    What gun blog site was it written for? I only found it posted on Warrior Talk. I didn't comment their because they all feel like I do about it and nothing else needed said.
    It appeared last week on The Truth About Guns, got a lot of interesting responses, as usual, all over the map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    Its a pretty good generalization of conceal carry. To be honest its just scratching the surface.....
    Well, of course, but when writing concisely, the goal is to say what must be said, not to say what might be said, or everything that could be said.

    Which reminds me of the words of the Dude: "Or Your Dudeness, or The Duderino, if you are not into the whole brevity thing."

    :)

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    I'm not trying to be mean here but it sounds preachy, as well as written by someone with very little actual street experience who's parroting what he's read on the internet.
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    You are the Pope?? Never thought I'd get a chance to meet you, least of all here.

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